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[–] [email protected] 45 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Wow. Moving someone to another location and then suddenly firing them for "communication standards?" Unless there's some highly compelling evidence to indicate otherwise, it's pretty clear cut what happened here. I guess they calculate it's better to pay a fine for a wrongful dismissal than to have a supervisor that is sympathetic to workers.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

As a society, we should ensure everyone that goes through something like this ends up a millionaire who never has to work again.

That'll motivate workers to unionize more than anything else we could possibly do.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Want to fix this? It'll take a) jail time, and b) asset seizure.

Corporate structure deliberate distributes responsibility for things like this such that:

  • It's very hard to find one person to blame, let alone prove malfeasance.
  • If by some chance you do find a smoking gun, the fine for doing so is usually less than the profit of the transgression

If, eg, Howard Schultz and his direct-reports faced fines and/or jail time directly, and those fines were orders of magnitude the harms of the action, then you'd see some of this stop.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I would offer that we hit the entire corporate/franchise structure with a % of revenue fine. That shit will get fixed real quick.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

In this region of Canada, at least, the maximum penalty for wrongful dismissal is ... Standard severance.

Source: a dear friend launched a successful human-rights complaint against a very deep-pocketed employer who blatantly violated clear medical orders and then fired him when he objected. Like, 100% dead-to-rights on a claim with no normal upper limit. Except here it maxes out at a pittance.

Maybe there too.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Depends on lawyer and time at employer. in Canada you can get severance pay + termination pay + closing pay

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You'd think so.

He thought for sure.

His lawyer strongly suggested it.

Nope.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Need a better lawyer because you aren't fully terminated till you sign the agreement. Had two friends deal with it. Company thought they would just do standard termination pay, lawyer got one person that plus severance for senior position and years, plus they owed an agreed upon closing pay for ending employment. They other person got every hour of pay they ever worked past their original signed salary weekly hours. Company thought theyd give a few weeks termination, ended up costing them half a years salary in OT