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How are so many sites OK with using cloudflare when they are basically a MITM? (alien.top)
submitted 11 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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Regardless of whether or not you provide your own SSL certificates, cloudflare still uses their own between their servers and client browsers. So any SSL encrypted traffic is unencrypted at their end before being re-encrypted with your certificate. How can such an entity be trusted?

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[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

They think it's not a problem for them. Because they think that:

  • they have nothing to hide
  • they don't think CF (or TLAs who have access) will use it against them. (Possible examples: Ukrainian sites, Russian sites who disagree with goverment on at least some things)
  • they think alternatives are worse - it's...rather difficult to make CF censor you.
  • they only use CF's DNS services and not other things
  • It's just easier this way

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This reminds me of current situation with "AI": There is OpenAI/Anthropic with their APIs (requests are sent via HTTPS but OpenAI/Anthropic are not only need to have access to do their work - they also censor it). There are paid-for alternatives who either host proxies for OpenAI/Anthropic/others (like OpenRouter.ai) or host local models for others (hosting require significant resources which will be unusused if you don't query often). There are means to host locally at home if you can. Some people prefer not to use local hosting even when they can do so.