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Things that make me angry about my current smartphone Samsung Galaxy S21Ultra on a Verizon plan is the mandatory software updates in which they install WITHOUT MY PERMISSION stupid apps like Netflix and addictive gambling games and stacking block games and Candy crush. God knows what else they install without my permission. I don't want any of it!

Next phone I buy I want to start with a clean slate, I'm not going to affiliate with any conglomerate like Verizon or AT&T or Sprint or T-Mobile etc, I prefer to go rogue somehow,

which smartphone do you recommend that has no bloatware and it's customizable?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago

Install grapheneos after

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I also caved for a pixel (4a) for my last phone, it still has Google's bloatware (can't remove youtube music app for example), but at least it doesn't have Samsung's bloatware in addition.

Still interested where this thread goes in other options though, as it's getting worse in battery life and I'm also looking out for something new.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Flash a third party OS like Graphene/Lineage/DivestOS. No more bloat.

A Pixel is rootable, which would enable you to remove whatever you want. Though I prefer starting clean.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Will a pixel respect my wishes for them to not install game apps behind my back?

And how can I buy one without bloatware already loaded on it? When I bought this phone I had to delete so much bloatware.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago

Only buy the Pixel if you are going to install GrapheneOS on it. GrapheneOS is de-googled and has no bloat pre-installed.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago

Pixel is stock android and is guaranteed to not have bloat unless some carrier is involved in it. Whenever anyone here suggests pixel they are definitely doing it for custom ROM like grapheneos and its pointless to buy otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Just avoid carrier-branded phones. Those are often boot locked.