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The world's 280 million electric bikes and mopeds are cutting demand for oil far more than electric cars (theconversation.com)
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[–] 12 points 2 years ago* (32 children)

these are feasible in cities that you wouldn't want to drive a car in anyways. probably not so good for commuting around Boise Idaho

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    We sold our car and committed around Tacoma for about 6 months before we moved to the Netherlands. It was awful in a ton of ways, but for a lot of trips it was way better. The majority of trips are under a mile, so dropping the kids off at preschool and stuff was way better on a bike. It's actually quite a bit faster since kids love to get on the bike instead of the long fight against the car seat.

    We also did a few shopping trips. You can't really do much more than 3 bags on a long tail bike with two kids in the back, but it worked well enough for shopping trips. People look at you like you're crazy in the US when you've got things strapped all over your bike, but here it's just completely normal. We probably would ride year round there if it wasn't for how dangerous cars are when it rains. I have no problem biking in the wind and the rain here because I know I'm not going to be randomly murdered by some idiot in a multiton metal box.

    I'm not familiar with Boise, but I'd bet that an eBike would still be better for a lot of trips.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    And winters.

    Say it to delivery workers in Moscow. No, say it to Finns.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Given winter being almost constant weather condition in Finland I assume they don't stop delivering because they are on another side of melting point.

    And about Russians yes. I see food delivery workers using ebikes entire year in any weather.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)
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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Or how to prepare for winter delivery in Saint Petesbirg.

    TLDR:

    1. Warm clothes
    2. Not an iphone or any other poorly-designed piece of crap that won't last even few hours
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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Because Boise, ID is not interested in building the necessary infrastructure for ideological reasons.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago* (4 children)

    I’m going to wager this comment was posted and upvoted by people who have never been to Boise. Because that place has a good amount of people biking around. Especially around Boise state and for recreation.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Been to Boise many time. Take a trip to Europe and then come back and tell me what you think of Boise's bike infrastructure.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Any American city is going to look like shit compared to Europes biking capitals.

    Compare a super blue “bike friendly” city like San Francisco to Amsterdam. It’s not even a fair contest. SF is a fucking cycling death trap in comparison to Amsterdam.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Sure. I'm just saying that there are a lot of opposition in many US cities to building green and more progressive infrastructure that doesn't specifically benefit cars. Especially in red states.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    True, but often times stuff like this boils down to the city planning and city budget, not the state. And a lot of major metro areas are pretty blue, even in red states.

    Oftentimes the biggest barrier is that the bones of US city planning was done with cars in mind, and trying to accommodate bikes afterwards is difficult. Which is why US cities that want bikes struggle with supporting them.

    Many old European city layouts were baked before cars were a thing.

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