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"with wind the single-biggest contributor.... Power production costs have declined “by almost half” .... And the clean energy sector has created 50,000 new jobs.... Ask me what was the impact on the electricity sector in Uruguay after this tragic war in Europe — zero."

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[–] [email protected] 255 points 11 months ago (5 children)

I actually never thought of it like that, if you're not partaking in the trade of fossil fuels, you are removing yourself from a lot of potential conflicts and "who support who" ordeals.

[–] [email protected] 79 points 11 months ago (2 children)

One of the main reasons the big players want (or even need) as many people globally to remain dependent on it as possible - control.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 11 months ago (3 children)

That and petrolheads in politics. Who is so slow in renewables? USA and Germany.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 11 months ago

Carter tried to show the US the future but then he got replaced with Bad Human 1.0 Ronnie and it was all trashed.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Germany has the most renewables per capita of any European nation and have been heavy investors for a long time now.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

They are a bit better now, but especially during Merkel were some heavy stones laid on the way for wind. Ok, i admit, they are good in private solar now.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Ironically it's the US and German subsidies that kickstarted solar and brought costs down.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Yep, lock the victim nations into a petroleum payment plan

[–] [email protected] 60 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes, I think that one of the side effect of the war in Ukraine will be a big increase of renewables energy in Europe.

European countries started to realize how fragile their energy supply is and how dangerous it is.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Sadly, in the meantime it also mean a surge of imports of fossil fuels from other countries and reopening extraction sites in EU. Reducing fossil fuel dependency really is the top priority of EU, not only for ecology but also for peace and for the economy.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Wait until we have our first Wind War.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

That's what we call it after eating beans all day

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

We call it Aladdin's revenge. Turning the blanket into a flying carpet and all that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

We'll control the wind and rain. It was a saying in soviet block during cold war and elites really thought they would. By spraying chemicals in clouds etc. Disgusting.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Cloud seeding? That's very much a real thing, although its effectiveness is disputed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

A bit of info about an "experiment" on the subject https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Popeye

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

...Except China, where most renewables are produced.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

Except once you have the turbines and panels, you don't have to keep importing resources to run them. Sure, you might need parts for maintenance, but if things go south it's a lot easier to reverse engineer parts than to find new oil suppliers.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

Only because they produce them the cheapest and in the largest quantities (which goes hand in hand).

Basically any country can produce solar panels and wind turbines. Both technology and resource wise.