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yeah, snaps, that's the only thing holding Ubuntu back
not dpkg and by extension apt being a flaming dumpster fire that will corrupt the package database if you look at it funny and there being no way out of that other than an OS reinstall
not the fact that there are zero tools for managing dependencies when building a program from source and you're entirely on your own when it comes to what *-dev packages you need to install
not the fact that Ubuntu is one of only two distros out of the hundreds that are out there where you can't use the computer while it's installing updates
not Canonical's general policy of "hey, this technology seems pretty cool, let's find out whether it's good or not by forcing it on all our users and seeing if they complain" (see: miri display server, cinnamon desktop, and of course snaps)
not the fact that there are ADS IN THE GODDAMN TERMINAL
not the fact that it's a Linux distro that thinks it's smarter than you and does something other than what you told it to based on what it thinks you meant (see:
apt install firefoxinstalling the snap) which IMO negates one of the primary reasons to use Linuxno it's snaps
snaps are the problem
I don't know what you're mostly on.
Dpkg is nowadays rock solid. I had 300 debians working together and auto updating at the same time, never had an issue.
managing dépendances when building from source, apart from Gentoo being built around the emerge management, no other package manager has any clue about source building dependencies.
confused about what's the problem when using 'buntu while it's updating.
Agree with this one. Fuck Canonical
same as above.
so it's snap the problem then?
admittedly it's been a couple years since I last used Ubuntu, and it may have gotten better in that time
I was talking about the AUR
see my first response. I remembered Ubuntu occasionally doing what Windows does and forcing a reboot, then spinning for 10-15m doing god knows what. Glad to hear they've fixed that
as for the last one I was talking about the fact that Canonical is willing to do that in the first place. It's not the snap itself, it's the fact that I told it to install a native package and it decided for me what I wanted. Shit like that is why I left Windows behind. "You don't really want to set your default browser to something other than Edge, do you?"
Tha aur is cheating, it's basically a script to install the correct dependancies. It's also not integrated natively into pacman so it's not related to the package manager itself.
Ok I understand what you mean for your last point
Cinnamon Desktop? Cononical? Since when was Linux Mint owned by Canonical?
Did I say Cinnamon I meant Unity