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WACO — Standing in front of a massive state flag on Saturday, Claver Kamau-Imani outlined his utopian vision of a Nation of Texas that he believes is just on the horizon.

No taxes or Faucis, no speed zones or toll roads. No liberals, no gun laws. No windmills, no poor people. A separate currency, stock market and gold depository. “Complete control of our own immigration policy.” World-class college football, a farewell to regulators. And unthinkable, unimaginable wealth.

“We are going to be so rich,” he chanted. “We’re gonna be rich. We are gonna be rich. We. Are. Going. To Be. Rich! … As soon as we declare independence, we're going to be wealthy. I personally believe that our personal GDP will double in five to seven years.”

“The independence of Texas is good for humanity as a whole,” he added to cheers.

Kamau-Imani, a Houston-based preacher, was among 100 or so people who spent the weekend at the Waco Convention Center for the first conference of the Texas Nationalist Movement, which since 2005 has advocated for the Lone Star State to break away from the United States — a “TEXIT,” as they call it.

Supporters of the movement said they are more energized and optimistic than ever about the prospect of an independent Texas, and pointed to appearances or support from current and former lawmakers — including state Sen. Bob Hall, R-Edgewood, who spoke at the event — as evidence that their movement is far from fringe. The get-together also came as TEXIT supporters celebrated what they believe is crucial momentum: Days before the meeting, the Texas Nationalist Movement announced that it was more than halfway to the roughly 100,000 signatures needed to put a non-binding secession referendum on the Texas Republican primary ballot.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Please do! Without their 40 electoral votes we won’t see a Republican in the White House for generations.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If they succeed well they will accomplish is getting their ass whooped while being invaded by the us, you'd think the last civil war would be a tipoff that you can't succeed.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

You realize it is, in fact, possible for a state to secede peacefully, right?

It's even a requirement for actual self-determination.

The last time wasn't acceptable because of the way they did it and why they did it.

But a mutual agreement to part ways is perfectly reasonable.

And, quite frankly, fuck those losers, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It is not.

Good luck doing it.

Try to argue that the next one won't be taken the exact same way.

Not at all.

Nope, Texas fucking off would be economically disastrous. The people can disavow citizenship and go somewhere else but taking federal property isn't going to do it. And even if they did succeed spain would come knocking for their filibustered property.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is absolutely going to blow your mind, but it turns out when both parties agree to something you can do it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Hypothetically yes, in practice no. Similarly the articles of Confederacy were analyzed before during and after the civil war and it was established that no state has the right to succeed without federal approval as the federal government has bought and paid for Texas both figuratively and retroactively to Mexico.