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Agreed. However, iMessage is better than sms. And I am trying my best to remove sms from my life
Signal
Again agreed, however some people either won't switch, or it would be more convenient to just use iMessage
Well yea, any IP-based messenger is better than SMS. iMessage is just Apple's implementation which only works with Apple devices.
Seems to me the people who have a comm issue are the ones choosing to use a messenger that only works on one platform.
I'm not on that platform, and neither is ~80% of the world.
It's mostly a north american problem as far as I know. In Germany more than 80% of the people use WhatsApp. Almost no one uses sms anymore.
If the alternative is sms I understand why people like iMessage so much.
Edit: Some more data, it seems like iMessage has about as many users as Signal, according to https://www.statista.com/statistics/867539/top-active-social-media-platforms-in-germany/
Wow, as many users as signal. Thats an interesting stat.
I like the idea of iMessage. It makes sense - default to a proper, encrypted messaging system while allowing for SMS.
Signal dropping SMS support is just so confusing. Keep SMS until many people have converted. You can always remove SMS later when it finally fades away.
SMS support was dropped because people were using Signal thinking their conversations were encrypted and it was only through unencrypted SMS. It's hard to sell the privacy part of Signal when it's not actually guaranteed, so they got rid of that.
I've heard this argument before and it's bunk.
Signal made it very clear when a message was unencrypted. And if that was really an issue, make the indicator more clear/obvious.
How many users of Signal lacked the ability to know this, especially since any less-technical people were likely using Signal because someone like us got them to, so we would be explaining the difference, as getting people to use the encryption is our goal.
Also, how would Signal know this issue? Were they monitoring users?
It really sounds like a non-reason. It doesn't add up.