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”Declining birthrates” is considered a normal thing to talk about, even though it only refers to white people.
Condescending attitudes towards any non- country, like I remember when the US left Afghanistan and a lot of people said stuff along the lines of ”We helped them so much and they still didn't become a good liberal democracy!”.
I encourage you not to read any comments sections about declining birthrates in Japan, South Korea, or China. They invariably read like cattle farmers complaining about a bad year, except usually cattle farmers aren't chomping at the bit to go fuck the cows.
Welllll…
Oh shit oh fuck not the Zoophilia article again
Yeah that part of Asia is NOT doing well. I think Japan has actually seen an uptick recently, but South Korea has had the same problem for a while now, and it's probably never getting better unless they get liberated by the DPRK.
South Korea is mega fucked but Japan's birthrate is pretty much in line with a bunch of developed nations. There's something kinda gross and wrong when random crackers on the internet will write essays on how Japan is chaste and sexless (lmao) even though it has a higher birthrate than Italy. Could you even imagine someone calling the Italians sexless virgins?
Oh yeah, there's a big-ass bunch of involved in that particular idea. Europe has just been better able to mask it's "sexless virgins" problem by bombing poorer african countries and taking the civillian population in as refugees.
Also I might just add that there was a sort of joke but not really in Denmark back in early 2022, where Denmark was trying to reform it's immigration system (along the obvious lines) as our industrial corporations were screaming for a bigger workforce, but our population is too racist to just allow "anyone" to move here and work those plentiful jobs. Suddenly the war in Ukraine was breaking out, and a danish comedian said on national tv, that strictly speaking Putin might have just saved the danish economy by creating a bunch of refugees who are highly educated and can thus work our industrial jobs. Immediately after, the danish confederation of industry (bougie union) went out and said that Ukrainians in general are not qualified to do the jobs that their membership wanted done.
Galaxy brain: putin attacked ukraine to save Denmark economy
Yeah, that one was kind of a headscratcher.
I don't understand. Doesn't Denmark release twelve new types of people every season? I found some here, for example.
wdym imagine. I do it all the time. Fuck' em.
I certainly would be very careful to swing too far the other way and pretend Japan isn't an extremely backwards oppressive patriachy. Yes they have sex of course, but are you just going to ignore the entire context around where and how that sex happens?
If there is a valid criticism here its how these criticis usualy have no socialist or even leftist background therefore they turn to BS liberal social/economic analysis and comparisons to the "normal" western cultural habits as if ours is inherently better. In that case yes it falls flat.
But any Marxist can easily point out it is quite hard to have sex when the corporate culture encourages practices like "not leaving before the boss" or staying as late as possible despite the lack of actual work. These are all blatant issues but they're of course capitalist issues where instead a lib will point to it just being an "Asian culture" problem.
There are of course very valid criticisms of Japan. It's just that most ignorant Westoids tend to parrot orientalist bullshit most of the time.
The only thing an italian man will fuck is himself, bada bing badaboom,
I will make 1 or 2 exceptions for the "muh birthrates" crowd, because I just listened to an absolutely heartbreaking interview with a school teacher in rural occupied korea who was lamenting that his school had been built in the 1960s and had rooms for 70-odd students per year, and his latest class had a total of 5 children in it, because cuck-Korea has had a total collapse in the amount of children that people are having. Obviously the proposed solution was not going to work, since Korea has banned all talk of improving society, but the story was still heartbreaking.
Honestly, not having children kind of owns in a way, theres no way capitalism can compete with people completely giving up on it and life. It's just proving Marx right.
Wife and I have a great time not having kids. As a result, we're the "fun" ones in the family who haven't been completely broken by home life.
That reminded me of a really odd 8th grade social studies moment. I'm Canadian and the teacher was talking about our low birth rates leading to an aging population, and he concluded that we should try to take in more immigrants to make up for the gap. Dude was a passionate lib that said 'democracy' in italics with a hand gesture (even funnier cause it was in French and he's Acadian descent, if you know the accent and speak French you'll know, if not I can't really get you there in text). We did a mock election on the day Harper got in, communists got 10% of the votes cause 3 of us voted for them.
My class (5th grade social studies) did the same thing when Harper was elected, except the cons won in a landslide since our teacher was an extreme right wing borderline libertarian guy who taught the class "conservatism is when you keep all the money you make, and liberalism is when you give it to the government in taxes, and the more taxes you pay the more liberal it gets". I'll admit I fell for that completely wrong explanation (in my defense I was 12) and "voted" conservative, but thank god I got my shit sorted out throughout highschool and into university
Cons can't even get a riding around here. Until you're out if the city, then it's all theirs