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[–] [email protected] 48 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Culture war issues will never go away until people figure out where the real source of their pain comes from. It comes from the 1 percenters. It's a class war. It always has been.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It's far, far less than 1%. It's more like the 0.0001%.

64 billionaires divided by 38 million people times 100 = 0.000168% of the population. I like where your head is at but 1 percenter is an old and inaccurate term.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well yeah, but it's easier to say 1%. Then explaining it's actually fewer we have to eat that's just a bonus.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but it's wrong. The 1% don't control all the companies and real estate, the billionaires do.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

However The 1% are all a part of the bourgeoisie.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

380 million, if you're talking about the US.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

While I think the rich are one of the most influential sources of it, I'm not convinced they're the only or even the majority. Like, of the rich stopped using bigotry to divide people, would people stop being bigoted? I don't think so at all. I think there's something wrong with humanity that makes it easy for bigotry to evolve even in the absence of power and perhaps worse, for people to want to be bigoted.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

If sapolsky is to be believed we have the natural inclination to view in- and out- group as part of our brain. Everything else is learned or a coping mechanism. I guess this is why people propose lived multiculturalism especially during childhood as a solution to xenophobia.

No matter if he can be believed or not on this fact the book is fun wiki

[–] [email protected] -5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If the culture war is the class war then the class war is the culture war. Dealing with the culture war is often many many times more actionable. We can and should deal with both.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Culture War is used by the Ruling class to distract from the Class war, the only way to win the Culture War is to win the Class War.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Ok but I don't have to not defend trans people to be anticapitalist. It isn't a "distraction" it is a front, to extend the war analogy.

The attitude arguing the culture war doesn't exist doesn't mean you are above it, it just mean you are abandoning your comrades who are under attack.