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    [–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    My question was just curiosity. If there's a good reason to switch to something else, I'd like to know, you know?

    [–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    You get a lot more transparency with the other init systems. Systemd is a big system that does lots of things and it's not always possible to see everything it's doing, because it's doing a lot.

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    It also likes to hide things behind port redirections and binary storage of things that have always been text before so you pretty much have to use their tools to even read them

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    I assume there's an advantage to the binary formats though. More efficient in terms of storage size? Easier to quickly search by a particular field even in huge files? Maybe something like that. (I genuinely don't know)

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

    I can actually understand what's going on with other init systems. They're basically just a list of stuff that gets run before you even log in. I do not understand everything that systemd does. I like understanding what my computer is doing. Most people don't care about that, and there's nothing wrong with that, but systemd is not what I want. I feel forced into using it anyway though, because it can be a lot of work to avoid it, and there's no reason for that beyond the fact that not enough people care.

    I get it. I'm in a small niche within a small niche. Nobody owes me an easy alternative to systemd. I'd still like one though.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

    Exactly. Other systems are clearly doing one thing: init. Systemd wants to do everything