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I'm sure this will come as a disappointment to many of you as you have joined this instance specifically because we do not block or defederate with anybody. Unfortunately my hand is forced on this occasion.

As many of you know this server is hosted in Ireland. It has been brought to my attention that under Irish law:

Virtual child pornography is illegal in Ireland per the Child Trafficking and Pornography Act of 1998 which includes "any visual representation".[Irish Statute Book] The country has strict laws when it comes to child abuse material, even if it doesn't contain any "real children".

As you can understand this requires me to defederate and remove the offending material from my server. There are newer admin tools in the works which will allow me to block specific communities instead of whole servers. Once this is in place I will refederate with burggit and block the individual offending communities.

This will also apply to other servers with offending content but as far as I'm aware burggit is the only one for the moment.

I still maintain my ideal of not defederating as much as possible but sometimes its out of my hands.

Thanks to everyone for helping create this vibrant community and for supporting. I am dedicated to make VLemmy the best it can be.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In addition to CSAM being illegal almost everywhere, it is also objectively morally abhorrent and should be shunned. There is no other possible stance to take.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Loli is not abuse material, but it does count as child porn in some countries. That's the case with Ireland, in which vlemmy is hosted. In the Netherlands, where burggit is hosted, loli is legal as long as you can instantly tell it's fictional.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah because you know, normal people who aren't pedophiles like to watch animated CP. 🙄

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

How is this related? CSAM means child sexual abuse material, and I doubt that drawings or animations are created by abusing real children.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Not real big on banning things on moral grounds. It is subjective and a very slippery slope. "I dont want my kids to learn about Puritanism. The Bible isnt a real book. Its just a pamphlet for whatever church." These are things that people believe.