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No, the art does not depict bestiality, don't worry.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

so, bestiality is wrong because you can't do it, in other words it's impossible. therefore the people who have done it on video are evil because they're doing something impossible. huey-wut

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

my op was 99.99%, that is not absolute, i was never making an absolute rule, my claim is that discourses about bestiality are mostly talking about the imaginary and fetishes but failing to recognize that. the article/tweet we're talking about is a thinly disguised sexual fantasy with no interface with material reality. and people itt are conflating that with the extraordinarily rare real world acts, that are nothing like that sexual fantasy.

in the 'article' they're imagining a consensual sexual relationship with a dog, which the dog consents to. this is impossible not just from a dog's faculty to consent, but because dogs do not experience sexual attraction to humans. if a male dog has ever fucked people, which i seriously doubt, it'd be through transparently nonconsensual training or something. it's not a real argument or a real situation, and i think it's silly when people give it the airs of a moral debate

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

if a male dog has ever fucked people, which i seriously doubt

ok, so you're just talking from a position of ignorance. when i say this is extremely well-documented, i mean that there used to be a subreddit called /r/sexwithdogs where people were posting hundreds of videos of precisely this.

it'd be through transparently nonconsensual training or something

this is true, yeah, you have to groom animals for stuff like this, just like any other vulnerable party.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you've never seen a dog hump someone's leg?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

a leg is not analogous to someone's sex organs?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

If someone rubbed a dick on your leg that would definitely be a form of assault. There's at least one sex organ involved here, the dogs.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

if a male dog has ever fucked people, which i seriously doubt, it'd be through transparently nonconsensual training or something.

When I was growing up, we had a family dog that was constantly humping legs. This isn't a defense, mind, since "but they made the first move" isn't any more justifiable with animals than it is with children, but it does happen.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

i think it's a long way from leg-hump (which isn't sexual in all situations, it's often about dominance) to fucking an animal with incompatible morphology, wrong pheromones, and incorrect behavior