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[–] [email protected] 104 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

I've been hearing more and more about Firefox lately, which seemed to coincide with many users migrating from Chrome. Have there been any major recent changes to the latter which have caused this migration?

Edit: Just installed Firefox and man has it come a long way since I last tried it on Android years ago. Even has ublock origin, page sync with desktop... I think I'll switch for the next couple days and see how I like it on desktop nowadays.

I remember switching from Firefox to Chromium back when it first came out. Nice to go full circle.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 year ago (1 children)

YouTube anti-adblock, Web integrity, mainfest v3, just to name a few. Things just slowly add up and most won't just stand there and take it

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

most - I'd venture to guess less than 1% will take any action, unfortunately

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

Well yeah… Chrome has Billions of users. Any percentage is a lot of people.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago

If you're on Android, using Firefox + ublock origin (or some other browser with AdBlock) is game-changing.

Continuing to use, say, Chrome, makes almost zero sense.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

Google threatening to take away the ad blockers was enough to make me go back to Firefox.

Manifest V3, Web Environment Integrity, YouTube's recent war on ad blockers.

The main issue is that now people just test their shit against Chrome. Maybe Safari if they're feeling generous. There's a few bits in Firefox Android where things just work a little bit less smoothly than they do in Chrome, and needing extra presses to work in FF. Not sure why, maybe Chrome is making clickable targets that little bit bigger or something.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i used opera on mobile and opera GX on my PC. switched back because of security and privacy concerns. i did not miss any major features, firefox really has become the best browser.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

When I used to develop website opera used to drive me mad. It always had weird edge cases.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People are becoming more conscious of stuff plenty of us have been aware for quite some time already. The idea that a browser made by a corporation who harvests your data for the purpose of advertising doesn't give a shit about privacy and will try to block adblockers is not something some people weren't expecting - but normies are getting this shoved in their face with YouTube giving them the anti-adblock notification.

Firefox (and it's clones) is basically the only other choice - all the other (major) browsers (that aren't Safari) are based on Chromium, which is developed by Google.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

tbh Google isn't blocking ad blockers with manifest v3.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

For me it was performance. Google Chrome consistently couldn't handle the tab loads I would put on it after around 2022, despite my computer not really showing signs of degradation.

Since switching to FF, I can run the same amount of tabs with almost not hiccups or stuttering - what I'd experience with Chrome. Hell, Chrome would crash randomly and I'd lose all my tabs and would have to reload them.

Plus, sometimes to fix Chrome's poor performance I'd shut the program down entirely, upon re-launch the browser wouldn't even remember all of the tabs/windows I just closed (it used to). So, if I was doing research on something, Chrome would just not open certain windows back up after a hard reset, even if I CTRL + SHIFT + T and I check history. Madly infuriating.

FF opens all windows and tabs upon hard reset, no questions asked. Plus, the compatibility between PC and mobile is awesome: I can load up a tab from my phone that's on my PC super easily, which makes things useful for when I want to share web content with friends or family.

I seem to have woken up from my slumber of tolerating Chrome, and chose a better service instead.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

The only problem I have with it is that it has no amoled dark theme. Still my default browser though.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Minor gripe but the scrolling feels so bad on desktop imo

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Maybe it's the smooth scrolling? I don't like it either. There's an option to disable it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I can't notice a difference on Mac OS using a trackpad, but maybe it's different on other platforms.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Try it with a mouse scroll wheel. It's a completely different feel compared to Chrome. I was on Windows if it makes a difference