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[-] [email protected] 286 points 2 years ago

Good. Tying aid to cuts in IRS funding was absolutely asinine. Failing to fund Ukraine, which is actually fighting for it's continued existence as a political entity is also asinine.

Yes, Hamas is a horrible organization; but, the Israeli Government isn't facing an existential threat and has not been an innocent actor in the situation in Gaza. Aid and support should come with strings attached to ensure the protection of civilians and property rights of the people being displaced.

[-] [email protected] 125 points 2 years ago

Fully agree, but have to add:

Most of the aid to Ukraine is actually just money for the US defense industry and military. They get to donate old stuff without paying for disposal and get money to build new staff.

The ROI on supporting Ukraine is huge. The US is eliminating their second biggest threat without sacrificing a single soldier and only at the cost of donating old equipment.

Israel, on the other hand, is more of a leech on the USA. They don't provide much benefit and they cost a lot of money and soft power. Unlike Ukraine, they have a powerful lobbying group to get out much more from the USA than would ever be warranted if they didn't hijack US domestic politics.

[-] [email protected] 50 points 2 years ago

I think you misunderstand Isreals role in the region, as far as US politics is concerned. As long as Isreal is a viable force in the region, They are seen as a knife at the collective Arab/Iranian/Egyptian throat. They act as a US proxy providing a counter weight to other regional powers. I'm no defender of Isreal, there actions, or Netanyahu, just providing another point of view.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago

I know that argument, but then you must also accept that acts like 9/11 are blowback and forever wars like Iraq, Afghanistan and ISIS are inevitable.

The American people do not profit of off this modern colonialism.

Just trading peacefully with the Muslim world would be cheaper and cost less blood.

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