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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

To all the burn it down and rebuild leftists (by protesting and not voting for the lesser of 2 evils) tell me how well that went for the Communists in Germany and Italy the last time mask off fascism rose to power there....

Edit: Not one of these "Self-righteous leftists" have addressed my question about what happened to leftists in Germany or Italy when fascist took power there. Its almost like they dont give a shit about the Prolitariat and would rather engage in purity politics rather than support the working class or marginalized communities. Absolutely pathetic astroturfing, or simply a complete disregard for the Materical Conditions on the ground in America.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago

Vote for the system least likely to break you and you allies while you work to dismantle it.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Looks at the 2016 US election...

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I legitimately regret not voting for Hilary....

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I get exactly how you feel. "Fuck the establishment, this'll be the year that a third party wins!" To be young and optimistic again...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

So that's what this is about.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

The amount of people I knew who were like, "There's no way Hillary could lose so I don't need to vote," or, "Bernie got fucked so I'm not voting out of spite," were too damn high

The "best" part was seeing how low the voter turnout was in our district that typically leans blue, well in 2016 the turnout was hella low and it went hella red for the first time in a long time

Looking at raw numbers the red was pretty consistent from election to election but that year so many people who would vote blue didn't vote that it swung the election

Felt bad but now those people I know haven't missed a single election

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Meh, I still kinda regret having voted for her

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

“I wish the Democratic Party would put forth a candidate worth voting for!”

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So in your mind what Trump did was better?

If you want to teach the Democrats a lesson, do it earlier. The presidential election isn't the time nor place to play games - as we saw with Trump setting the country back years.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Not voting for the lesser of two evils is the most childish shit. People like to bring up that Geralt quote, as if the situation in that story wasn't made a hell of a lot worse by his decision not to choose.

If you're not gonna vote blue all the way down, then you need to put your money where your mouth is and start burning it down so you can rebuild it. Otherwise you aren't protesting, you're just being lazy.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Wasnt Biden supposed to be the lesser of two evils last time? How's that working out for you?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A hell of alot better than if 45 was still in office.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (35 children)

Two major wars with nuclear armed states, one with an actual genocide.

Are you proud of yourself for supporting genocide?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So what are you suggesting? Vote for Trump?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I really dont know what in the fuck they are suggesting, they sound like a Russian shill trying to derail the rising tide of Class Conciousness in America by encouraging leftists to not vote, allowing the mask off fascist Republicans to win. They would apparently rather be ideologically pure and let the fascists win, than pinch their nose and vote for the lesser of two evils and maintain the status quo where large swaths of the population are actively waking up to the hypocrisies of our Capitalist system. Either way they reek of astroturf and are extremely disingenuous, and have completely ignored the onus i set for them to explain what happened in Italy and Germany when fascist took control there, because they dont give a shit and just want to see America burn. They dont give a damn about the Prolitariat.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Are you proud of yourself for arguing in bad faith?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Maybe you should get your Facts right. The KPD only didnt participate in the 1919 election. In the last Reichstags eleciton in 1933 they got 12,3%. They where removed and procecuted after the Nazis blamed a Communist for the Reichstags fire. idk much about Italy but they also got a few seats before Mussolini. To your question about what happened to German Communists, they where either put into Prisons/KZs and killed there, flead to the Soviets or went to Spain to fight Facism there. idk about Italy but probalby the same.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not one of these “Self-righteous leftists” have addressed my question about what happened to leftists in Germany or Italy when fascist took power there.

Because your question implies that selfish concerns ought to outweigh principles...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Protecting the Prolitariat is not a selfish concern...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I wonder if they had any particular reason to think that supporting the "lesser evil" wouldn't accomplish that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

is it already Presidential election in he US? when did the primaries end? man I feel out of touch

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Election day is tomorrow, alot of state representatives and senators are on the ballot

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you think that Germany or Italy wouldn't have gone fascist if the leftists just voted harder?

The historian in me eagerly awaits your reply

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/piano_drop.jpg

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not saying that voting harder back then would have changed anything, but drawing a parallel between then and America today where mask of Fascism is very much on the ballot tomorrow and a year from now in the presidential election. Not voting to protect one's ideological purity is the height of privilege.

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