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[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Funny, but did you manage to install it on a way too old pc or are you using hdd as System drive?

Because it just seems to install as normal, but slowly.

I mean Linux may take the same time if you install sth like popos which ads a lot of "bloat"

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is on an M.2 with a i7-10870H and a 3080M. I installed Windows some days ago on my main Desktop and didn't have to deal with any of that. It must be a new "feature".

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well then I wonder what the fuck Windows is doing? Running crypto miners?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Would you put it past Microsoft?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

When I had to reinstall Windows 11 on a laptop at work with an 11th Gen i7 it took a good 30+ minutes of it faffing about between finishing the setup wizard and reaching the deskfop and when I to installed PopOS on a much older laptop with a 6th Gen i7 it took less than 5 minutes to perform the install

[–] [email protected] -5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Pop took like 5 min on my old crappy m.2

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago (3 children)

There’s no such thing as an old crappy m.2. That format is way too new to be called old and crappy. Ide hdds are old and crappy, some sata are old and crappy, m.2 is not even old and certainly not crappy

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There are definitely crappy M.2 drives. Drives with no cache, slow nand, slow processors, and awful TBW. They’ll be light years faster than a hard drive, but if they fail in a year then are they not crappy?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Sure there are. It's several years old and was low spec already then. You know the timeline of m.2 seemingly so you should be aware what old and crappy means in the context of m.2's age.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

There's a world of difference between SATA and NVMe.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And neither are old or crappy. Any m.2 format drive does not deserve to be called either. That just reeks of entitlement to consider any m.2 bad, just sounds like a kid that never used anything actually bad

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

M.2 can be anything, from the crappiest SATA to the best NVME money can buy

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Any modern SATA SSD will still nearly max out the bus in sequential writes, delivering sequential performance ~3x that of a spinning disk and random performance, even for the cheapest of drives, at >100x a disk.

Installing windows is not generally going to be enough to fill the drive write buffer, and even if it does, they're still going to be comparable to spinning rust. This is a problem that affects low quality (not necessarily cheap) drives, both SATA and NVME.