the_dunk_tank
It's the dunk tank.
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Fuck me, I ended up posting a wall of text.
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The reply to this is an absolute banger
Point bounced right off their head. Just the perfect demonstration of the differences you outlined between liberal idealism and socialist materialism. They even give their own interpretation of how a liberal revolution ought to happen, totally divorced from history or theory, so we don't end up with another "bad" outcome.
It is a giant heap of brainworms, but at least the guy replied. More than I expect from Reddit.
God fucking damn it. Sanders did campaign on legitimately demsoc policies in 2020, but if you look at virtually everything that he has done before and since, as well as some of the other things he has said during his campaign (disavowing socialism outside of the Nordic model), he is very clearly a socdem at best.
The whole fucking point of socialism is that you won't get there by taking incremental steps from liberalism.
Bernie was the most earnest, good faith attempt at saving the empire the ruling class could ever expect to come from the proletariat. From here on out, they can only expect the gravity shave. By crushing Bernie, they demonstrated that they aren't even acting rationally, and there is no way you can negotiate with an irrational counterpart.
Bernie's a center right socdem anywhere in Europe and even that had bougies on TV crying about being executed in Central Park
What part of "liberals support free markets and private property" does this person not understand?
Mother fucker I do not care if you are Bernie or Mitch McConnell you both hold the same fucking beliefs in supporting private property and free markets. Whatever your other policies are you are an enemy of socialists because these beliefs are utterly incompatible with socialism.
You are on team capitalism and we are on team socialism. You are team liberal and we are team leftist.
Their response was the perfect encapsulation of why liberals are not allies to socialists, and they still didn't get it.