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Let me preface by saying, I would love to hear counter points and am fully open to the fact that I could be wrong and totally out of touch. I just want to have some dialogue around something that’s been bothering me in the fediverse.

More and more often I keep hearing people refer to “normies”. I think by referring to other people as “normies”, whether you intend to or not, you inadvertently gatekeep and create an exclusive environment rather than an inclusive one in the fediverse.

If I was not that familiar with the fediverse and decided to check it out and the first thing I read was a comment about “normies”, I would quite honestly be very put off. It totally has a negative connotation and doesn’t even encapsulate any one group. I just read a comment about someone grouping a racist uncle and funny friend into the same category of normie because they aren’t up to date on the fediverse or super tech savvy or whatever.

I don’t want to see any Meta bs in the fediverse. I barely want to see half of the stuff from Reddit in the fediverse. I don’t want to see the same echo chamber I do everywhere else.

I do want to see more users and more perspectives and a larger user base though. I want to see kindness and compassion. I want to talk to people about topics they are interested in. I want to have relevant discussions without it dissolving into some commentary on some unrelated hot topic thing.

I think calling people normies creates a more toxic, exclusive place which I personally came here to avoid.

Just my two cents! I know for most people using the term it isn’t meant to be malicious, but I think it comes off that way.

Love to hear all of your thoughts.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

How about "I hate Terfs"? What does that make me?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

TERF isn't a slur, it's an accurate descriptor.

Terfs are trans exclusionary. Terfs are on the borders of feminist thought, making them radical (and not in the cool way).

They only want it to be a slur so they aren't accurately described as what they are.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Actually I think it is quite a stretch to call them feminists in any way. 99% of the time they ally with the far right and many of their leaders advocate against things like contraception and healthcare for women

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thats more of the term being overused. Only a vanishing small number of people are terfs.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah but "Radical"... TERFS ain't radical, nor bodacious nor totally tubular dude!

Accept everyone, that's the TMNT way!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Are they bossanova at least?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

It makes you an awesome ally. 👍

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There's a specific group of people who readily use the word "TERF", and you're clearly identifying yourself as in that group. However, I've seen folks use the word "TERF" to refer even to people who aren't Fs at all, and certainly not RFs. JK Rowling may identify as a feminist, but she's not a "radical" anything. So yeah, I think using "TERF" does more clearly identify the position of the speaker than the person so described.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

if terf isn't a slur, Normie isn't either. people seem to get irrationally upset about the word normal. normal is a well defined word, the same way cis is but it seems one group is fine with one whilst the other isn't.

instead of focusing on labels and how much they upset you (I don't mean who I am replying to), focus on understanding and respecting people's differences, regardless of terminology.