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Endeavouros alternatives? (sh.itjust.works)
submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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I dont have any problem with it i simply would like to see peoples different opinions, so, this is what the system would be generally used for/what id like it to do:

  1. stay out of my way (just work), ex: i dont get any notifications i dont want from the system itself and all i need to do is type 3 letters to initiate an update

  2. requires little ram to actually use (not really needed due to hardware but simply to reduce the pcs noise as much as possible, bonus points if programs generally do the same thing on it)

  3. Doesnt require too much fiddling (endevouros never needs this generally, when installing something it usually installs everything you need for things to work, i prefer GUIs usually but if its deadsimple commands like yay its fine as well)

  4. I game and stream so both would need to be doable as easy as possible (i use obs, when it comes to games i usually do emulation and try to avoid proton)

id love to hear what yall would recommend, thanks yall in advance

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One note about Ubuntu, snaps are the thing wrong with it. They've gotten better in the latest release, but they still create annoying extra mounts, can be slow to start on lower-end hardware, and occasionally have issues with themes.

Which would be fine if they didn't trick the user into using them, and make it a pain to try and get rid of them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Snaps have been awful in the past, but they are dramatically better in 23.10. With most of them, there’s really no noticeable difference. LibreOffice is still pretty slow though.

I don’t get the complaints about mounts. So you run the mount command with no arguments and there’s a bunch of them. What’s the big deal? If need be, just use grep to filter out snaps.

I wouldn’t say they are tricking users either. They are transitioning to a new package manager. For better or worse, snaps are the future of Ubuntu. They are handling the transition by layering snapd on top of the legacy base.

I’m not some rabid Ubuntu fan. I’ve never used it beyond just checking it out from time to time. But, objectively, it’s a great distribution. They pretty much check all of the important boxes. It’s easy, it’s reliable, it’s secure, it’s a mature organization, there’s good community support as well as paid support, and it’s Linux. Unlike Red Hat, they give away the same exact product they sell to enterprises and even provide years of updates without a support contract. They do a hell of a lot to push Linux forward, particularly on the desktop, and we all benefit no matter which distro we use. They’re ok in my book even if snaps are meh.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sounds like enough little annoyances and workarounds that I wonder why bother with it when something like Mint provides the same experience out of the box without those issues.

I used to recommend Ubuntu as the most basic, vanilla Linux desktop experience, but I just can't anymore.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wouldn’t say that having played with the new one for a few days. Spin it up in a VM and check it out. It looks good, it works well, the new App Store app is actually good. It’s so much better than that crap Gnome Software app. It’s still a good recommendation for new users - probably a better one now than the last couple releases. I think 24.04 will be very popular when it comes out.

I dabbled with Mint around 2010 or so. It was a nice distro back then. I haven’t seen it recently. Might have to take a look.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That's fair, I have heard that the most recent version is a big leap forward, so it's possible the next LTS will finally be worth it again.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

There are many ways to work with mounts and you can't always just grep your way around it.

For example, when I use ZuluCrypt to mount an encrypted volume, the list is cluttered with a million snaps. It's annoying and slows me down. This is a problem with every utility that deals with mounts.