this post was submitted on 24 Oct 2023
40 points (68.9% liked)
Asklemmy
43858 readers
1507 users here now
A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions
If your post meets the following criteria, it's welcome here!
- Open-ended question
- Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions. Assume best intent and be excellent to each other.
- Not regarding using or support for Lemmy: context, see the list of support communities and tools for finding communities below
- Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members
- An actual topic of discussion
Looking for support?
Looking for a community?
- Lemmyverse: community search
- sub.rehab: maps old subreddits to fediverse options, marks official as such
- [email protected]: a community for finding communities
~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_[email protected]~
founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Futurama. I know it's supposed to be "a parody" of the future rather than a representation of it, but there are times it just feels like one big PSA. It doesn't age well at all, and the new season will age even worse, to the point where any child a decade from now is going to know what kind of people watched it, such as with its views on theology and politics which are trademark 90's views.
It makes it even more annoying when some world event happens and people are like "Futurama predicted this" as if the show is a kind of scripture, such as the show predicting that robosexual marriage would become a thing. It's like, I don't know, science fiction was made to predict and give ideas to science?
It seems like you are mainly criticising fans (perhaps imaginary fans) rather than the show itself. I do agree that the later seasons are just not as good as the first ones, and personally I have little interest in the newest season, it never should have been revived in my opinion, it is just going to end up like the Simpsons.
I will gladly rewatch old episodes though, and no, not because I think it predicts anything, but because it is damn funny.
You are getting me curious. Could you give some examples of what trademark 90's views on theology and politics are?
Out of curiosity, have you watched the Simpsons recently? I think, after season 31 or 32, it started getting better again. There are some really great episodes from two seasons ago.
The latest season of Futurama had two good episodes, but the rest were kind of weak. About the same level as season 9-10(Hulu season numbering). Those seasons were "meh" mostly but with three really amazing episodes (Free Will Hunting, Game of Tones, Meanwhile).
I watched Futurama trying to stay sane in grad school, as it was released on DVD. It's straight-up comforting to watch now. Watching it when I'm stressed connects me emotionally to almost 20 years ago. I was stressed then but I made it out ok.
Imagine being 3000 years into the future and being told the United States has become the ruler of the world, that Richard Nixon was revived and became president just so he could be made fun of (nobody in a few years is going to think of him as the butt of the presidential line), that Nibbler's species formed the universe by pooping out dark matter (again, the 90's was the prime Stephen Hawking age, and the 2000's were when the media had a big theology movement), Bender and "god" in the form of a galaxy, the beast with a billion backs, the robot devil (you have to wonder at this point how theological the show can get), etc.
They did the worldview equivalent of making a show made in the 70's and set in the 70's and expecting the show to not be dated.
Ok first of all, yes Futurama is dated by its pop culture references, that's what happens when you make pop culture references. Second, Fry travelling into the future is used to make fun of the 20th century. The show isn't about the future, it's about now. The world of the future isn't supposed to be believable it's used as a vehicle for pointing out the absurdities of the 20th century.
But most of all it's just a silly comedy with clever writing. Most Futurama memes are of one off gags and not what made the show truly funny. One of the huge mistakes they made with the newer seasons was constantly referencing old jokes, which is essentially the writers says "hey remember when this show was actually funny?".
But I'm ranting now. Futurama has been memed to shit and the fan base embarrassingly loves to hype up the show and it's all its PHD having writers. None of that captures what makes the show great. The first run of the show was just a solid, funny, witty show with a heart of gold.
This clip epitomizes Futurama for me.
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
This clip epitomizes Futurama for me.
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.
This is breaking my heart more