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This land isn’t for you or me. It’s for the meat industry. | Almost half of the continental US is used for meat production. There’s something better we could do with it. (www.vox.com)

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The problem is that people are mean to animals? Sorry, I don't see that as a problem at all. Producing food for humans' causes green house gases? Yes. I agree, humans have impact on their environment. We should destroy all human culinary culture and eat only what is the most efficiency use of land? Why?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The problem is that people are mean to animals?

You are selectively ignoring both me and everyone else here stating over and over again that the environmental damage, pollution, and carbon waste of industrialized meat farming is a massive planet threatening problem. The ignorance is on you.

Sorry

You're not. Stop doing that smug passive-aggressive Reddit talk.

I don't see that as a problem at all.

The planet's becoming desertified for the sake of your meat treats and you don't see a problem? You're destructively ignorant.

We should destroy all human culinary culture and eat only what is the most efficiency use of land? Why?

So we don't fucking die for the sake of your unfettered treat demands.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How about we get rid of fossil fuels? You dont' need to commute daily by car to your negative worth sales job. Lots of people actually hate their jobs under capitalism but no one says you know what? I actually really hate eating meat but I feel like I'm forced to do it anyway. People enjoy food. It's one of the few joys many have left in our hell society.

Your solution to the environmental damage caused by agriculture is "eat less food." That's not a solution at all! My solution is that amazing experiences that human culture and society can provide us is 35% of the problem so let's address the other 65% because that's the shit that doesn't make life worth living. Shipping consumer electronics 8,000 miles just to throw away within a year doesn't make anyone happy. Spending 2hours a day commuting via car to some shitty office so that you can sell more consumer junk doesn't make anyone happy. These are the things that should be changed. The fact that people eat different food then you should be celebrated. Human culture is awesome and a world where we all eat the same food because it's the most efficient isn't a world worth living in.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

How about we get rid of fossil fuels?

Concern trolling argument. Besides, if those fossil fuels were gotten rid of, your meat treats would be staggeringly impacted when it comes to everything from raising to slaughtering to distribution, so you would suffer a loss there anyway.

The fact that people eat different food then you should be celebrated. Human culture is awesome and a world where we all eat the same food because it's the most efficient isn't a world worth living in.

Again, you're selectively ignoring the very large pollution, land depletion, and carbon footprint of industrialized factory meat farming by conjuring an imaginary hyperbole all-or-nothing situation where nothing can be done unless everything is done. Besides, if I had to choose between those extremes, I'd rather the planet not become uninhabitable. Choosing otherwise if those must be the two extremes is basically death cult thinking, and for what?

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/sep/13/meat-greenhouses-gases-food-production-study

You are choosing to ignore the facts over and over again while pretending you're not getting any arguments of that sort because you have nothing but your petty selfishness to fall back on here.

You are being willfully ignorant for obscenely petty and selfish reasons.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ahahaha. Being worried about fossil fuels is a "concern troll?" Ok it's obvious now that you care more about virtue signaling against "carnists" and their "treats" as long as you can continue driving your SUV around. The suburbs and your entire car-centric lifestyle is coming to an end, thankfully. Meanwhile I'll enjoy my urban-raised chickens and daily eggs while you complain to the manager of Whole Foods that they are out of imported tofu again.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ahahaha.

Being worried about fossil fuels is a "concern troll?"

Yes, it is when you keep stating your concern for that while also saying "fuck you, got mine, unlimited meat treats" as if the only choices were unlimited meat treats or some imaginary dark world of oppression with zero meat treats.

while you complain to the manager of Whole Foods that they are out of imported tofu again

If there were Reddit-O-Meters, they'd be exploding just scanning your post.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Is there a reason you keep posting 4chan images?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You really do have nothing of value to say here, never did, and getting called out on your "totally not mad" reaction against valid criticism of your meat treat fixations looks like it hits its mark.

You're a clown. Do a juggling act or ride your unicycle off stage already. 🤡