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[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Is there a way to see which instances a Mastodon instance has defederated with? For lemmy instances, for example, you can go to /instances to see a list of other connected and blocked instances.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

you can go to /instances to see a list of other connected and blocked instances.

I just did, and noticed a bunch of supposedly-federated mastodon instances, but in reality I've never seen them in my 'all' stream.

Are they not supposed to show up there?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

Lemmy uses a feature called "groups" to denote the community a post is in. Mastodon doesn't support groups yet. Once it does, I would think those posts may federate with Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My understanding is that the 'all' feed only shows posts that come from accounts followed by people on your instance. You can follow anyone from any federated instance; and when you do, their posts will appear in your personal feed, and also in the 'all' feed for everyone on your instance. People are aren't followed by anyone on your instance won't show up in the 'all' section.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've believe I've seen something like that stated before, but we're talking *zero* mastodon content showing up in ALL. Which happens to be the same instance as yours, btw, with Lemm.ee being the third largest instance in the Lemmysphere. You'd expect at least a little mastodon content showing up, but there's just nothing.

So far the two resources just don't seem to be mixing, so perhaps what the other person was saying is correct. Right now in order to search mastodon, I'm using this tool.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thank you for sharing Fediverse Explorer, super useful!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That list shows all instances that your instance is kinda sorta maybe aware of.

For example, if I searched the profile link for someone or some group from a Masto instance and didn't do anything with it, that instance would still get on that list because it asked the Lemmy instance about info on that profile/community.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Oof, pardon this tragically late reply.

So... TBH I don't quite understand what you're saying.

From my POV, I'm envisioning a way where Mastodon content could populate the ALL feed of Fediverse users, for example us lemmings. Do you reckon that's possible?

Note: I already know how to search mastodon content btw, via tools like this

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

On desktop there should be a small "about" link in the bottom left, from which there is a "moderated servers" dropdown menu where you can see defederated servers. I don't see anywhere to view the servers you ARE federated with, but if it's listed at ~~Mastodon's official website~~ (whoops, I actually meant this)it's probably in.

I don't see anything on the official Masto app, but that app is just missing a ton of functionality in general.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

the servers you ARE federated with

iirc, that's all down to what accounts your server's users follow. If any users on server A follow users on server B, and neither A nor B block the other, then A is federated with B.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But how would a user on A find anyone on B before federation? I know Lemmy can initiate federation through the search function just in case you're the first to look for something on another instance, but I don't see how that would work on Masto.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's done through a similar mechanism, you can paste the URL of a user on a different Mastodon search which triggers the same style of search as it does on Lemmy. Mastodon has relays (an admin needs to add/subscribe to one, and the relay has to confirm/accept) however which can also help "kickstart" Federation so to speak as well - which is like blasting a firehose at an instance.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In addition, I believe that there might be a "viral" component to federation; if users on server A follow users on server B, and users on server B follow users on server C, then server C's popular posts can show up on server A's explore page. Is that correct?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

If someone on server B were to boost that posts from server C, then yes they'd show up on server A as far as I know - but only if they're boosted. The federation aspect works a lot like Lemmy's, so while my instance my federates with lemmy.world (and vice versa), my instance doesn't know about the communities on LW unless someone on my instance subscribes to that community in particular (and vice-versa for a community on my instance not showing up on LW until someone over there subscribes). At least, that's how I understand it - to be honest I still don't have my head completely wrapped around Mastodon's federation aspect but since both Mastodon and Lemmy use ActivityPub I'd reckon that they're very similar.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That's exactly the same as lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

FYI the official website is https://joinmastodon.org/servers, not whatever you linked to

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Only one I found so far was https://fba.ryona.agency/

The caveat is that it was made by kiwifarms

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I've used it to quickly check defederated instances but, yeah, kiwifarms is a problem.

Also, look at the GitGud repo

They literally licensed it under an AGPLV3+[n-word] license

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's defed.xyz as an alternative, but it only tracks defederations between lemmy instances for now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

cool! I'll check that one out

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@0x2d @sure >Made by kiwifarms
You people are insane

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@dcc @0x2d @sure

Thank you Greek man for inventing math and philosphy and fuck the Turkos, bunch of goat loving interlopers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@dcc @0x2d @sure

He're a conscience puzzle, like the railroad. You have a herd of goats, and a really big shepard dog to protect them, however....

The shepard dog is really into a female goat in heat and starts raping her. What do you do as a rancher/farmer?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@charlie_root @0x2d @sure Shear the Sheppards balls off :mc_gibblets:

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

@dcc @0x2d @sure

But he's literally your last line at the middle of the night while your sleep and moutain lions, foxes, coyotes prey on your livestock (chickens too).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

@dcc @0x2d @sure

Also I'm not being weird, when I worked on that ranch in California this thing happened literally. And when I tried to get that ANATOLIAN SHEPHERD DOG (greek) off the goat it growled at me like never before. I wasn't fucking with that beast...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@dcc @0x2d @sure

But your making it weak? It defeats the purpose.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@dcc @0x2d @sure

So police and military dogs are neuterd too??

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

@charlie_root @0x2d @sure Good question, i think so although dont quote me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@[email protected] have you read this thread on the remote instance? pure cancer induced by soy milk

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@pomstan @0x2d Well, what else you'd expect when gene splicing redditors and mastodon users?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

@[email protected] @[email protected] a conviction in the international criminal court