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People in the comments missing the point completely. The solution to animal cruelty is not human cruelty.
Yes, eating animals is cruel to animals, but meat eating isn't going away, and being cruel to the people who work in those places isn't going to stop the industry. It's just going to physically and mentally harm a lot of underpaid, overworked, poor, immigrant people. People who don't have healthcare for the injuries they incur working in hazardous places, for corporations who see them as just replaceable parts of a machine. Being harmed working in these plants isn't going to result in fewer animals dying or better conditions for the animals we kill. It's just more senseless harm.
Clarifying question, are you saying shutting down slaughter houses is human cruelty?
No. Having inhumane conditions for the workers is cruelty.
Yes, so wouldnt shutting them down be good? We dont need slaughterhouses. I get meat "isnt going away" but if we should shut down facilities that operate with human cruelty.
No. They're saying that slaughter houses don't appear to be going away in the near future since there is a still a fervent demand for meat, so the answer of "just shut them down" isn't a valid solution yet. They should be removed of human cruelty until we can fully remove them.
So the answer provided is no answer at all? We need to close any factory that operates with cruelty. There is no acception to be made.
Assuming you aren't being purposefully obtuse, the answer is to make them safe and suitable environments for people to work in. You can figure out a way to punish the company who is creating these conditions, but for the time being, the answer is to make them reasonable to work in.
Im not sure how saying "we need to shut down a factory that operates with human suffering" is obtuse.
It's obtuse because it's not like another one is going to crop up in the same town in the same day to give the workers jobs, nor is it going to solve the issue of regulating the industry properly. The people enforcing the policies need teeth, and those teeth should be able to bite at the people causing these conditions. Places get like this because 3rd party inspection is underfunded and underpowered. Shutting a place down means it cuts into profits while potentially cutting off workers' incomes. It doesn't mean the owners or board get significantly impacted.