this post was submitted on 18 Oct 2023
187 points (82.8% liked)

Technology

59299 readers
4561 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Thats hilarious. Does a vpn get around this? Because if so, it wont stop botting

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It would unless they started banning VPN IPs. I guess Musk is stupid enough to do it

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Dont most vpn companies cycle their active ips? Or is that more of a niche thing only one or two options do

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

There are still companies that actively maintain lists of VPN IPs. My employer is a big user of Akamai for CDN & web security. Although we don’t use it, I know Akamai has a highly accurate list of VPN addresses that customers have access to.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They have dedicated blocks of IPs assigned to them, he would just have to block the blocks.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

if vpns still run in china where the entire security establishment (including all the network infrastructre) are playing cat and mouse with trying to block them i think they can manage it for a tech company clinging on with 1/3 of the required workforce.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm not saying it's difficult to do, it's actually pretty simple. I'm just describing how it would be done.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Vpns are open source, commodity software. You can set one up with a script at any webhost. He would have to block every site that lets you spin up server, which is most of the internet.

Its not possible to actually block vpns without nation state access to interent infastructure, and even then it's not easy.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If I'm a bot owner and I could pay $500/year to ensure my 500 bots run unfettered, it might be worth it. I can influence a significant amount of discourse with 500 accounts xitting, rexitting the original xit that was xit out, etc.

If he thinks he can make money from bot managers, it may make sense.

It will probably decrease trust in the whole xitty system, but maybe Musk doesn't care?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And you'll use 500 accounts for that?

I think that when they are banned, you'll have to come up with 500 new ways to pay

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

I think you underestimate how many validated credit cards come up for sale every week on the internet.

Trust me, paying $1 isn't even a speed bump to scammers: they pay it with Other People's Money.

That's the tough part about white-hat, you follow the rules, they don't.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago
  1. It has nothing to do with bots. Bots were his way of trying to get out of being forced to make good on his legally binding offer to buy Twitter. He goes on and on about bots, but he’s stopped reporting metrics about monetizable users and just started reporting made up metrics like number of user-seconds and crap like that.
  2. The funny thing would be to use a VPN to simulate traffic from NZ so it looks like they try accessing it and then just give up.