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There were so many shitty albums I bought for $16 in the early 90s (even worse, that's like $30 now) and had the exact experience in the meme. Things like we loved the first Suicidal Tendencies album, bought the second and were 'wtf is this?' The only way we had to pick out death metal was based on the cover art and record label... put it in the CD player, okay, good guitar sound... just have to wait until the guy sings.... that pretty much decided it.
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MFW the main singer guttural scream isn't as good as in the last album.
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With a new band you never know. It could be a low, murky graaar like Immolation or Bolt Thrower… or a higher pitch like most Entombed (I prefer Clandestine where some bassist from another band sang, but most people don’t, for some reason). Or it could be like Deicide where the singer is mainly good then they cheapen it with this cheesy high pitched thing…. Carcass where the singer is h medium pitched and sounds good, then they also have a low guttural voice thrown in here and there, which was alright. Or maybe all is well and it’s the perfect Morbid Angel vocals.
Sounds like a Theatre of Tragedy problem.
"Fuck that shit. We'll fire the singer that put us on the map because she was only supposed to be a back-up, and then we'll go full techno".
(as you may guess, I never got over it. Also, I know this full-techno song was still w/ Liv Kristine, but they stayed techno-ey and I picked a song I don't actually hate)
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I tried to listen the song and it's not really my cup of tea. It felt almost psychedelic.
I for the most cases , don't enjoy any screaming and neither vocals for that matter. That's why I mostly will only listen to instrumental pieces of the metal genre like the doom ost. Nothing else matters is an exception but that song is more of ballad.
Exactly! Compare to Rose for the Dead, which is arguably (ok, my opinion) the most solid "Beauty and the Beast" genre death metal song ever written.
Of course, there ARE vocals, but as I say, totally different genre.
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The part from 1:09 to 1:18 was a pleasant surprise to my ears. The woman seems very talented and I totally understand why you'd feel like a it was a huge waste to fire her.
The start of the instrumental transported my mind into a bandit filled wasteland world. It'd fit soo well into ashe 2063 ( a free doom full conversions game that I highly recommend ) or at least watch a playthrough of. I guarantee you'd play it after watching a few minutes.
If you like that at all, their Aegis album features her much more heavily, if with somewhat less "growl". She also has had a few bands since that did "okay" in Norway. Leaves' Eyes does gothic twist on some traditional celtic.
Also, "Beauty and the Beast" death/doom are hard to find, but Cradle of Filth had a few phenomenal songs of that genre. Nymphetamine Fix is my favorite of theirs. It's so hard to find good death or doom that fit my tastes.
I watched a little LP of ashe 2063. FPS's don't work well with me, but it seemed interesting. Me with gaming seems like you with music :) I don't like "vocals" (action reflex games)
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The dude growling voice wasn't that bad the first time he sang. Later parts weren't as good tho. The part at 1:22 till 1:45 was my favorite. Really digging the folklore feel.
I actually have really bad reflexes but most games allow to toggle the difficulty and juste enjoy the story with the exploration as the reward, not passing the challenges. I wish it was as easy to toggle the vocals off. So many songs I deeply enjoyed until someone sang and removed any joy listening to it, so i end up playing that first part over and over.
Yeah, IMO it's definitely a step down from the growl voices I like, ex. Peter Steele or Raymond Rohonyi (but had to look him up, which shows how much more I respect Liv Kristine than him)
As for vocals. I'm so attached to vocals it's hard for me to relate. Most music I listen to are the type of person you can immediately recognize if they sing a totally random song acapella. Everything from Enya to Celine Dion, Maynard to Trent Reznor to Peter Steele. Even bands I "kind of like" have that in common.
"Oh my god, that sounds like...." <--if I can't say that if they do a cover or new release and I didn't know, then I probably don't like it.
We're polar opposite. Nevertheless, I don't hate all vocals, Celine Dion is indeed a phenomenal singer , but not everyone is a good singer nor have a good voice, and even then, the lyrics can be a turn-off. I have hyperphantasia and my mind tend to wonder whenever I listen to any song, vocal more often than not disrupt the process. My favorite genre is chiptune music.
Fucking Death metal was my counter to shitty alternative albums with one hit...30 years later I'm still a fan of grindcore/death metal/stoner metal.....thank god for Relapse Records.