▲ 667 ▼ Biden Warns Israel Not to Occupy Gaza (www.nytimes.com) submitted 2 years ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world 260 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 118 points 2 years ago (4 children) Biden: "For fuck's sake, Israel, don't do something this monumentally stupid." No points for guessing what comes next. permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] iyaerP@lemmy.world 71 points 2 years ago (2 children) Is it ethnic cleansing? Oh boy! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] PugJesus@kbin.social 39 points 2 years ago "Here I go killin' again!" permalink fedilink source parent [–] sik0fewl@kbin.social 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's been happening for decades and just last week they starting displacing 1MM more. So I don't think "next" is the right word. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SolarNialamide@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago Ethnic cleansing comes next. It also came previous, but it will come next, too. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago I have 500 on anyone who evacuated the Northern area is denied re-entry and the maps change to gaslight the world into thinking Gaza was always that small. permalink fedilink source parent [–] khepri@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't see why they'd need to occupy anything. Occupation would imply that you wanted to control that area and those people. I think Israel knows occupation would never work and wouldn't try it. They've preferred to wall-off people in enclaves, slowly squeeze all life out of those regions, and when the people they have cornered inevitably violently lash out against their own slow-motion genocide, it's time to flatten the area with bombs again. Israel calls it "mowing the grass" and I don't think a massive occupation fits with that strategy. I think they want to break the region, scatter the people, and leave it to rot, not occupy and be forced to manage it into the future indefinitely. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Turning it into the world's largest open air prison is occupation. permalink fedilink source parent [+] APassenger@lemmy.world -19 points 2 years ago (1 child) Biden needs to be primaried. The democratic party keeps making the mistake of picking a winner early. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's too late. None of the state parties have any of the setup done for a primary. Once an incumbent president (of either party) declares they're running again their party automatically backs them. I just feel lucky we have incumbent primaries for Congress. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Thief_of_Crows@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) I mean, I'm voting for West. Democrats only hold power if we say they do. Just don't vote for Democrats ever again. The only control we have is over ourselves let's exercise it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) If there's a chance then sure. But I'm not exactly going to stick a fork in my eye just to spite the Democrats. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Thief_of_Crows@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Voting for Democrats will only exacerbate our problems. Democrats have never made societies problems meaningfully better, at least in the modern era. Its not spiting them, it's not signing off on the thing we all know will definitely happen. Voting for Biden will make things worse. Voting for West might possibly make things better. The choice is obvious. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago If West has a chance sure. If not then we're just denying votes to the contest between Status Quo man and Fascist man. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] iyaerP@lemmy.world 71 points 2 years ago (2 children) Is it ethnic cleansing? Oh boy! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] PugJesus@kbin.social 39 points 2 years ago "Here I go killin' again!" permalink fedilink source parent [–] sik0fewl@kbin.social 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's been happening for decades and just last week they starting displacing 1MM more. So I don't think "next" is the right word. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SolarNialamide@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago Ethnic cleansing comes next. It also came previous, but it will come next, too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 39 points 2 years ago "Here I go killin' again!" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sik0fewl@kbin.social 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's been happening for decades and just last week they starting displacing 1MM more. So I don't think "next" is the right word. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SolarNialamide@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago Ethnic cleansing comes next. It also came previous, but it will come next, too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SolarNialamide@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago Ethnic cleansing comes next. It also came previous, but it will come next, too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago I have 500 on anyone who evacuated the Northern area is denied re-entry and the maps change to gaslight the world into thinking Gaza was always that small. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] khepri@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't see why they'd need to occupy anything. Occupation would imply that you wanted to control that area and those people. I think Israel knows occupation would never work and wouldn't try it. They've preferred to wall-off people in enclaves, slowly squeeze all life out of those regions, and when the people they have cornered inevitably violently lash out against their own slow-motion genocide, it's time to flatten the area with bombs again. Israel calls it "mowing the grass" and I don't think a massive occupation fits with that strategy. I think they want to break the region, scatter the people, and leave it to rot, not occupy and be forced to manage it into the future indefinitely. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Turning it into the world's largest open air prison is occupation. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Turning it into the world's largest open air prison is occupation. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] APassenger@lemmy.world -19 points 2 years ago (1 child) Biden needs to be primaried. The democratic party keeps making the mistake of picking a winner early. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's too late. None of the state parties have any of the setup done for a primary. Once an incumbent president (of either party) declares they're running again their party automatically backs them. I just feel lucky we have incumbent primaries for Congress. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Thief_of_Crows@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) I mean, I'm voting for West. Democrats only hold power if we say they do. Just don't vote for Democrats ever again. The only control we have is over ourselves let's exercise it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) If there's a chance then sure. But I'm not exactly going to stick a fork in my eye just to spite the Democrats. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Thief_of_Crows@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Voting for Democrats will only exacerbate our problems. Democrats have never made societies problems meaningfully better, at least in the modern era. Its not spiting them, it's not signing off on the thing we all know will definitely happen. Voting for Biden will make things worse. Voting for West might possibly make things better. The choice is obvious. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago If West has a chance sure. If not then we're just denying votes to the contest between Status Quo man and Fascist man. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) It's too late. None of the state parties have any of the setup done for a primary. Once an incumbent president (of either party) declares they're running again their party automatically backs them. I just feel lucky we have incumbent primaries for Congress. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Thief_of_Crows@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) I mean, I'm voting for West. Democrats only hold power if we say they do. Just don't vote for Democrats ever again. The only control we have is over ourselves let's exercise it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) If there's a chance then sure. But I'm not exactly going to stick a fork in my eye just to spite the Democrats. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Thief_of_Crows@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Voting for Democrats will only exacerbate our problems. Democrats have never made societies problems meaningfully better, at least in the modern era. Its not spiting them, it's not signing off on the thing we all know will definitely happen. Voting for Biden will make things worse. Voting for West might possibly make things better. The choice is obvious. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago If West has a chance sure. If not then we're just denying votes to the contest between Status Quo man and Fascist man. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Thief_of_Crows@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) I mean, I'm voting for West. Democrats only hold power if we say they do. Just don't vote for Democrats ever again. The only control we have is over ourselves let's exercise it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) If there's a chance then sure. But I'm not exactly going to stick a fork in my eye just to spite the Democrats. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Thief_of_Crows@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Voting for Democrats will only exacerbate our problems. Democrats have never made societies problems meaningfully better, at least in the modern era. Its not spiting them, it's not signing off on the thing we all know will definitely happen. Voting for Biden will make things worse. Voting for West might possibly make things better. The choice is obvious. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago If West has a chance sure. If not then we're just denying votes to the contest between Status Quo man and Fascist man. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child) If there's a chance then sure. But I'm not exactly going to stick a fork in my eye just to spite the Democrats. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Thief_of_Crows@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Voting for Democrats will only exacerbate our problems. Democrats have never made societies problems meaningfully better, at least in the modern era. Its not spiting them, it's not signing off on the thing we all know will definitely happen. Voting for Biden will make things worse. Voting for West might possibly make things better. The choice is obvious. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago If West has a chance sure. If not then we're just denying votes to the contest between Status Quo man and Fascist man. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Thief_of_Crows@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) Voting for Democrats will only exacerbate our problems. Democrats have never made societies problems meaningfully better, at least in the modern era. Its not spiting them, it's not signing off on the thing we all know will definitely happen. Voting for Biden will make things worse. Voting for West might possibly make things better. The choice is obvious. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago If West has a chance sure. If not then we're just denying votes to the contest between Status Quo man and Fascist man. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago If West has a chance sure. If not then we're just denying votes to the contest between Status Quo man and Fascist man. permalink fedilink source parent