▲ 628 ▼ 22 Democrats Sponsor a Bill That Could Censor Abortion Info From the Internet (jezebel.com) submitted 3 years ago by L4s@lemmy.world [M, B] to c/technology@lemmy.world 89 comments fedilink hide all child comments 22 Democrats Sponsor a Bill That Could Censor Abortion Info From the Internet::The Kids Online Safety Act is “a blank check” for Republican AGs to "intimidate any way they can," a digital civil liberties advocate told Jezebel.
[–] Zaphod@discuss.tchncs.de 92 points 3 years ago (15 children) Censor something from the internet? good luck lol permalink fedilink source hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] CosmicTurtle@lemmy.world 43 points 3 years ago (7 children) "The Internet interprets censorship as damage and routes around it." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] spittingimage@lemmy.world 42 points 3 years ago (4 children) That was before the internet was five big websites showing content scraped from the other four. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Siegfried@lemmy.world -9 points 3 years ago (3 children) I would argue most of internet is already being censored... probably for good reasons. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] themurphy@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago (2 children) "Good reasons" for the people in power. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago You are right, most of it is probably to keep people in power and the servants in line, but there are also a lot of situations in which we actively ask for censorship. Moderators are needed for a reason. Censorship is our only relatively effective tool to counter disinformation campaigns and fake news. Even search engines censor their results either to avoid lawsuits or to prevent certain situations, like someone asking for suicide methods is redirected to sites telling him why life is worth it. I still understand this is a double edged sword and im not sure if the risks involved with compulsory censorship are worth losing our internet freedom, but I do understand this shit is needed on certain situations permalink fedilink source parent [–] floppade@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago In a literal level, this person is not being unreasonable. Facebook moderators and the psychological conditions they face as a result of their work are a good indication of that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] original_reader@lemm.ee 3 points 3 years ago Source permalink fedilink source parent [+] h3mlocke@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] treadful@lemmy.zip 36 points 3 years ago (2 children) Now imagine if they used the law to force Google not to provide any results in a search for abortion. While it may not remove content from the Internet, it effectively removes access to it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago* (1 child) This shows we need an open source search engine that anybody can whip up. To all the devs and volunteers out there, please make something like this, if there's one already, I'll see if I can contribute to the project. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] floppade@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago In the meantime, you can use something like ProtonVPN to make sites think you’re not in the US. Google uses your IP address to determine your location and implement regulations based on that. You get better privacy options when it thinks you’re in Europe too. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BluJay320@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 3 years ago (1 child) I smell onions permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] figaro@lemdro.id 14 points 3 years ago A 16 year old girl who wants to know what to do after getting pregnant does not permalink fedilink source parent [–] scottywh@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago You say that but the internet of today is a far more "sanitized" place than it once was. permalink fedilink source parent [–] themurphy@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Lol, this is very doable and happens in the western world all the time. Even propaganda is rampant here. Maybe it's not gone, but it might as well be if 98% of the population can't find it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CosmicTurtle@lemmy.world 43 points 3 years ago (7 children) "The Internet interprets censorship as damage and routes around it." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] spittingimage@lemmy.world 42 points 3 years ago (4 children) That was before the internet was five big websites showing content scraped from the other four. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Siegfried@lemmy.world -9 points 3 years ago (3 children) I would argue most of internet is already being censored... probably for good reasons. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] themurphy@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago (2 children) "Good reasons" for the people in power. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago You are right, most of it is probably to keep people in power and the servants in line, but there are also a lot of situations in which we actively ask for censorship. Moderators are needed for a reason. Censorship is our only relatively effective tool to counter disinformation campaigns and fake news. Even search engines censor their results either to avoid lawsuits or to prevent certain situations, like someone asking for suicide methods is redirected to sites telling him why life is worth it. I still understand this is a double edged sword and im not sure if the risks involved with compulsory censorship are worth losing our internet freedom, but I do understand this shit is needed on certain situations permalink fedilink source parent [–] floppade@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago In a literal level, this person is not being unreasonable. Facebook moderators and the psychological conditions they face as a result of their work are a good indication of that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] original_reader@lemm.ee 3 points 3 years ago Source permalink fedilink source parent [+] h3mlocke@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] spittingimage@lemmy.world 42 points 3 years ago (4 children) That was before the internet was five big websites showing content scraped from the other four. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Siegfried@lemmy.world -9 points 3 years ago (3 children) I would argue most of internet is already being censored... probably for good reasons. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] themurphy@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago (2 children) "Good reasons" for the people in power. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago You are right, most of it is probably to keep people in power and the servants in line, but there are also a lot of situations in which we actively ask for censorship. Moderators are needed for a reason. Censorship is our only relatively effective tool to counter disinformation campaigns and fake news. Even search engines censor their results either to avoid lawsuits or to prevent certain situations, like someone asking for suicide methods is redirected to sites telling him why life is worth it. I still understand this is a double edged sword and im not sure if the risks involved with compulsory censorship are worth losing our internet freedom, but I do understand this shit is needed on certain situations permalink fedilink source parent [–] floppade@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago In a literal level, this person is not being unreasonable. Facebook moderators and the psychological conditions they face as a result of their work are a good indication of that. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Siegfried@lemmy.world -9 points 3 years ago (3 children) I would argue most of internet is already being censored... probably for good reasons. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] themurphy@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago (2 children) "Good reasons" for the people in power. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago You are right, most of it is probably to keep people in power and the servants in line, but there are also a lot of situations in which we actively ask for censorship. Moderators are needed for a reason. Censorship is our only relatively effective tool to counter disinformation campaigns and fake news. Even search engines censor their results either to avoid lawsuits or to prevent certain situations, like someone asking for suicide methods is redirected to sites telling him why life is worth it. I still understand this is a double edged sword and im not sure if the risks involved with compulsory censorship are worth losing our internet freedom, but I do understand this shit is needed on certain situations permalink fedilink source parent [–] floppade@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago In a literal level, this person is not being unreasonable. Facebook moderators and the psychological conditions they face as a result of their work are a good indication of that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] themurphy@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago (2 children) "Good reasons" for the people in power. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago You are right, most of it is probably to keep people in power and the servants in line, but there are also a lot of situations in which we actively ask for censorship. Moderators are needed for a reason. Censorship is our only relatively effective tool to counter disinformation campaigns and fake news. Even search engines censor their results either to avoid lawsuits or to prevent certain situations, like someone asking for suicide methods is redirected to sites telling him why life is worth it. I still understand this is a double edged sword and im not sure if the risks involved with compulsory censorship are worth losing our internet freedom, but I do understand this shit is needed on certain situations permalink fedilink source parent [–] floppade@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago In a literal level, this person is not being unreasonable. Facebook moderators and the psychological conditions they face as a result of their work are a good indication of that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago You are right, most of it is probably to keep people in power and the servants in line, but there are also a lot of situations in which we actively ask for censorship. Moderators are needed for a reason. Censorship is our only relatively effective tool to counter disinformation campaigns and fake news. Even search engines censor their results either to avoid lawsuits or to prevent certain situations, like someone asking for suicide methods is redirected to sites telling him why life is worth it. I still understand this is a double edged sword and im not sure if the risks involved with compulsory censorship are worth losing our internet freedom, but I do understand this shit is needed on certain situations permalink fedilink source parent
[–] floppade@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago In a literal level, this person is not being unreasonable. Facebook moderators and the psychological conditions they face as a result of their work are a good indication of that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 36 points 3 years ago (2 children) Now imagine if they used the law to force Google not to provide any results in a search for abortion. While it may not remove content from the Internet, it effectively removes access to it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago* (1 child) This shows we need an open source search engine that anybody can whip up. To all the devs and volunteers out there, please make something like this, if there's one already, I'll see if I can contribute to the project. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] floppade@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago In the meantime, you can use something like ProtonVPN to make sites think you’re not in the US. Google uses your IP address to determine your location and implement regulations based on that. You get better privacy options when it thinks you’re in Europe too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago* (1 child) This shows we need an open source search engine that anybody can whip up. To all the devs and volunteers out there, please make something like this, if there's one already, I'll see if I can contribute to the project. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] floppade@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago In the meantime, you can use something like ProtonVPN to make sites think you’re not in the US. Google uses your IP address to determine your location and implement regulations based on that. You get better privacy options when it thinks you’re in Europe too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] floppade@lemm.ee 1 point 3 years ago In the meantime, you can use something like ProtonVPN to make sites think you’re not in the US. Google uses your IP address to determine your location and implement regulations based on that. You get better privacy options when it thinks you’re in Europe too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BluJay320@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 3 years ago (1 child) I smell onions permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] figaro@lemdro.id 14 points 3 years ago A 16 year old girl who wants to know what to do after getting pregnant does not permalink fedilink source parent
[–] figaro@lemdro.id 14 points 3 years ago A 16 year old girl who wants to know what to do after getting pregnant does not permalink fedilink source parent
[–] scottywh@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago You say that but the internet of today is a far more "sanitized" place than it once was. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] themurphy@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Lol, this is very doable and happens in the western world all the time. Even propaganda is rampant here. Maybe it's not gone, but it might as well be if 98% of the population can't find it. permalink fedilink source parent