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Pressure grows on Apple to open up iMessage (finance.yahoo.com)
submitted 2 years ago by [M, B] to c/technology@lemmy.world
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Pressure grows on Apple to open up iMessage::Samsung has joined Google’s campaign to force Apple to make iMessage RCS-compatible—but European regulators are more likely to get that job done.

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[–] 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'll just carry on using whatapps and people on iPhones can either download it or put up with my different coloured bubbles if they don't want too. Luckily people in the UK are all mostly on WhatsApp anyway, this who text message colours is a very yank centric problem.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Signal or at least Telegram or Viber. Fuck WhatsApp, I'd like at least my messenger app to not belong to Facebook of all companies.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Whatsapp is actually better than Telegram lol. You fell for Telegrams marketing lol

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    At least Telegram doesn't show your fucking phone number

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    They can literally read your messages by default lol

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  • [–] -3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Any FSB agent can connect any whatsapp message to person who wrote it.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    That's just plain wrong.

    Whatsapp is using the Signal Protocol.

    To read your messages they need to get your phone. And now even your Backups are encrypted, so they can't read your Messages from there.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    What encryption will do against someone who is in same group chat?

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  • [–] -3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    While it's all still E2E encrypted I don't really care what servers it goes though. If the UK/EU manage to get encryption blocked then I'll worry.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

    I tried to use it a few months ago. It would not let me use it unless I gave it access to all my contacts' information. I denied the permission request and it wouldn't work.

    How in the hell are you okay with that?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    I'm pretty sure the stock SMS app that comes with your phone also needs access to the contacts permissions, but is enabled by default, so the app doesn't even ask for it.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    So in addition to that, why give the information to Facebook too?

    Remember, Zuckerberg thinks people are dumbfucks for giving information to him.

    Why do they go out of their way to disable the app if I deny access to contacts? Surely it would be less work to just add a couple of warnings telling me it may not work properly. But to disable the whole app? That is absolutely ridiculous.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Because that's how phones work, it links your account to your phone number and uses your contacts to tell you who's on the app too using their numbers.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Because that's how -phones- Whatsapp works,

    Yeah, that is also how computer viruses work. I was very thankful for permission control. That app is cancer.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Meh, I think some people are just paranoid on Lemmy when it comes to stuff like this. There's plenty of laws in the UK around storage and use of information that protect users of apps like this.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    If it's so benign, why make it necessary to give all the information about all your contacts to the app?

    To paraphrase Zuckerberg, "people are dumbfucks for giving me so much information."

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    How else do you think a messaging app that replaces your phones messaging functionality is supposed to work if not on phone numbers?

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    So you're saying that the only way a messaging app can work is to access all the information from all your contacts? If it doesn't have all that information, it can't work? If Whatsapp can't have all that information, it would be impossible to function?

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    No, it's fully possible to have its own account and log in system, but that adds a layer of abstraction that makes it harder to sell to people as a replacement for their inbuilt messaging apps which just require a phone number.

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