▲ 1192 ▼ Israel's siege of Gaza is illegal, EU says (euobserver.com) submitted 3 years ago by NightOwl@lemm.ee to c/worldnews@lemmy.ml 407 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 51 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (27 children) Why are they not sending wepons to Palestinians? permalink fedilink source hideshow 27 child comments replies: [–] moroz@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 3 years ago Because Israel destroying HAMAS or Palestine doesn't threaten EU. Yet. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Browning@lemmings.world 13 points 3 years ago To what end? This isn't something Palestine can fight their way out of, however many weapons they have. permalink fedilink source parent [–] GeoGio7@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago (9 children) What? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 years ago* (8 children) EU send incredible amount of weapons to Ukraine, citing repelling invasion. So even if we generously forget how most of their members were participating in invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan, surely they can send at least some weapons to Palestine? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) This is a far messier situation than ukraine being invaded, and 2) this literally just started. And multiple nations have spoken up about defending palestinians already. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] bloubz@lemmygrad.ml -4 points 3 years ago I think it was mostly provocative. You know permalink fedilink source parent [+] rckclmbr@lemm.ee 6 points 3 years ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] American_Communist22@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 3 years ago settlers aren't innocent permalink fedilink source parent [–] bloubz@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 3 years ago Oh, but they did. Oopsy (2014) permalink fedilink source parent [+] Sowhatever@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 3 years ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 years ago* (1 child) never had the aim of annexing the country and destroy their culture language and identity. Never stole children. Etc. That is a really stupid goalpost to stand by. The semantics you've drawn really do spell out "I only care about the invasion of Ukraine. Iraq and Gaza aren't that bad." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Sowhatever@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 3 years ago If you want to think that, you can. permalink fedilink source parent [–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Because the very same article shows the EU most certainly doesn't like Hamas. His condemnation of Israel's behaviour came after three days of EU rhetoric that had focused on the "utterly inhuman … shocking … barbarous" nature of Hamas' atrocities, while highlighting Israel's rights rather than its obligations. He pledged his staff would conduct a swift review of EU aid to Palestine to make sure no money ended up with Hamas via error or deception. Stopping aid to ordinary Palestinians would be "the best present we could give to Hamas and it would jeopardise our interests and partnerships in the Arab world," he added. "We want to make sure that, beyond UNRWA, the EU budget does not get to any organisations which has any ties, any links to Hamas," he said. EU sending weapons is not a matter of who is defending or attacking, only a matter of who they like permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 years ago Of course, i was (rhetorically) asking our resident EU shills which claims EU is follwing some kind of beningn international policy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] bob@feddit.uk 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) Biden and the US have delivered and promises more military aid for Israel. What death toll do we want here? https://www.reuters.com/world/biden-speaks-with-israels-netanyahu-us-monitors-situation-2023-10-11/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago* Probably as much as possible, especially that Netanyahu is known for unhinged hate and slander for Palestinians and Biden now just repeats it after him. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Tire@lemmy.ml -8 points 3 years ago (10 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 37 points 3 years ago Like clockwork, libs parroting the most blatant propaganda. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Flaps@hexbear.net 36 points 3 years ago (1 child) Critical thinking is when you parrot literal IDF propaganda permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] jack@hexbear.net 32 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) The IDF isn't even claiming this. They say there's no evidence. That means if you repeat this, you are quicker to believe propaganda about Palestinians than the IDF. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ho_Chi_Chungus@hexbear.net 30 points 3 years ago (1 child) Just because you 100% bought into western media bullshit about WMD in Iraq and the incubator babies doesn't mean you have to double down on the next round of obvious bullshit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago Incubator babies? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Grimble@hexbear.net 29 points 3 years ago (1 child) Did you know that most modern devices come with a builtin filter app to detect Hamas propaganda, as per Israeli law? Press Alt-F4 to activate it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Thordros@hexbear.net 22 points 3 years ago That only works on desktop. On mobile, you need to hold volume up and power, release when the device reboots, scroll to recovery mode using the volume keys, then choose factory reset permalink fedilink source parent [–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 25 points 3 years ago Is that before or after they throw them out of the incubators? permalink fedilink source parent [–] FortifiedAttack@hexbear.net 23 points 3 years ago No, so that they can cut off deez nuts: permalink fedilink source parent [+] Kuori@hexbear.net 1 point 3 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] moroz@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 3 years ago Because Israel destroying HAMAS or Palestine doesn't threaten EU. Yet. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Browning@lemmings.world 13 points 3 years ago To what end? This isn't something Palestine can fight their way out of, however many weapons they have. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GeoGio7@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago (9 children) What? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 years ago* (8 children) EU send incredible amount of weapons to Ukraine, citing repelling invasion. So even if we generously forget how most of their members were participating in invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan, surely they can send at least some weapons to Palestine? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) This is a far messier situation than ukraine being invaded, and 2) this literally just started. And multiple nations have spoken up about defending palestinians already. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] bloubz@lemmygrad.ml -4 points 3 years ago I think it was mostly provocative. You know permalink fedilink source parent [+] rckclmbr@lemm.ee 6 points 3 years ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] American_Communist22@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 3 years ago settlers aren't innocent permalink fedilink source parent [–] bloubz@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 3 years ago Oh, but they did. Oopsy (2014) permalink fedilink source parent [+] Sowhatever@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 3 years ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 years ago* (1 child) never had the aim of annexing the country and destroy their culture language and identity. Never stole children. Etc. That is a really stupid goalpost to stand by. The semantics you've drawn really do spell out "I only care about the invasion of Ukraine. Iraq and Gaza aren't that bad." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Sowhatever@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 3 years ago If you want to think that, you can. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 years ago* (8 children) EU send incredible amount of weapons to Ukraine, citing repelling invasion. So even if we generously forget how most of their members were participating in invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan, surely they can send at least some weapons to Palestine? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) This is a far messier situation than ukraine being invaded, and 2) this literally just started. And multiple nations have spoken up about defending palestinians already. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] bloubz@lemmygrad.ml -4 points 3 years ago I think it was mostly provocative. You know permalink fedilink source parent [+] rckclmbr@lemm.ee 6 points 3 years ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] American_Communist22@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 3 years ago settlers aren't innocent permalink fedilink source parent [–] bloubz@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 3 years ago Oh, but they did. Oopsy (2014) permalink fedilink source parent [+] Sowhatever@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 3 years ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 years ago* (1 child) never had the aim of annexing the country and destroy their culture language and identity. Never stole children. Etc. That is a really stupid goalpost to stand by. The semantics you've drawn really do spell out "I only care about the invasion of Ukraine. Iraq and Gaza aren't that bad." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Sowhatever@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 3 years ago If you want to think that, you can. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) This is a far messier situation than ukraine being invaded, and 2) this literally just started. And multiple nations have spoken up about defending palestinians already. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] bloubz@lemmygrad.ml -4 points 3 years ago I think it was mostly provocative. You know permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bloubz@lemmygrad.ml -4 points 3 years ago I think it was mostly provocative. You know permalink fedilink source parent
[+] rckclmbr@lemm.ee 6 points 3 years ago* (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] American_Communist22@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 3 years ago settlers aren't innocent permalink fedilink source parent [–] bloubz@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 3 years ago Oh, but they did. Oopsy (2014) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] American_Communist22@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 3 years ago settlers aren't innocent permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bloubz@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 3 years ago Oh, but they did. Oopsy (2014) permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Sowhatever@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 3 years ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 years ago* (1 child) never had the aim of annexing the country and destroy their culture language and identity. Never stole children. Etc. That is a really stupid goalpost to stand by. The semantics you've drawn really do spell out "I only care about the invasion of Ukraine. Iraq and Gaza aren't that bad." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Sowhatever@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 3 years ago If you want to think that, you can. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 years ago* (1 child) never had the aim of annexing the country and destroy their culture language and identity. Never stole children. Etc. That is a really stupid goalpost to stand by. The semantics you've drawn really do spell out "I only care about the invasion of Ukraine. Iraq and Gaza aren't that bad." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Sowhatever@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 3 years ago If you want to think that, you can. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sowhatever@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 3 years ago If you want to think that, you can. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 years ago* (1 child) Because the very same article shows the EU most certainly doesn't like Hamas. His condemnation of Israel's behaviour came after three days of EU rhetoric that had focused on the "utterly inhuman … shocking … barbarous" nature of Hamas' atrocities, while highlighting Israel's rights rather than its obligations. He pledged his staff would conduct a swift review of EU aid to Palestine to make sure no money ended up with Hamas via error or deception. Stopping aid to ordinary Palestinians would be "the best present we could give to Hamas and it would jeopardise our interests and partnerships in the Arab world," he added. "We want to make sure that, beyond UNRWA, the EU budget does not get to any organisations which has any ties, any links to Hamas," he said. EU sending weapons is not a matter of who is defending or attacking, only a matter of who they like permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 years ago Of course, i was (rhetorically) asking our resident EU shills which claims EU is follwing some kind of beningn international policy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 years ago Of course, i was (rhetorically) asking our resident EU shills which claims EU is follwing some kind of beningn international policy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bob@feddit.uk 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) Biden and the US have delivered and promises more military aid for Israel. What death toll do we want here? https://www.reuters.com/world/biden-speaks-with-israels-netanyahu-us-monitors-situation-2023-10-11/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago* Probably as much as possible, especially that Netanyahu is known for unhinged hate and slander for Palestinians and Biden now just repeats it after him. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 years ago* Probably as much as possible, especially that Netanyahu is known for unhinged hate and slander for Palestinians and Biden now just repeats it after him. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Tire@lemmy.ml -8 points 3 years ago (10 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 37 points 3 years ago Like clockwork, libs parroting the most blatant propaganda. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Flaps@hexbear.net 36 points 3 years ago (1 child) Critical thinking is when you parrot literal IDF propaganda permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] jack@hexbear.net 32 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) The IDF isn't even claiming this. They say there's no evidence. That means if you repeat this, you are quicker to believe propaganda about Palestinians than the IDF. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ho_Chi_Chungus@hexbear.net 30 points 3 years ago (1 child) Just because you 100% bought into western media bullshit about WMD in Iraq and the incubator babies doesn't mean you have to double down on the next round of obvious bullshit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago Incubator babies? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Grimble@hexbear.net 29 points 3 years ago (1 child) Did you know that most modern devices come with a builtin filter app to detect Hamas propaganda, as per Israeli law? Press Alt-F4 to activate it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Thordros@hexbear.net 22 points 3 years ago That only works on desktop. On mobile, you need to hold volume up and power, release when the device reboots, scroll to recovery mode using the volume keys, then choose factory reset permalink fedilink source parent [–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 25 points 3 years ago Is that before or after they throw them out of the incubators? permalink fedilink source parent [–] FortifiedAttack@hexbear.net 23 points 3 years ago No, so that they can cut off deez nuts: permalink fedilink source parent [+] Kuori@hexbear.net 1 point 3 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 37 points 3 years ago Like clockwork, libs parroting the most blatant propaganda. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Flaps@hexbear.net 36 points 3 years ago (1 child) Critical thinking is when you parrot literal IDF propaganda permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] jack@hexbear.net 32 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) The IDF isn't even claiming this. They say there's no evidence. That means if you repeat this, you are quicker to believe propaganda about Palestinians than the IDF. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jack@hexbear.net 32 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) The IDF isn't even claiming this. They say there's no evidence. That means if you repeat this, you are quicker to believe propaganda about Palestinians than the IDF. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ho_Chi_Chungus@hexbear.net 30 points 3 years ago (1 child) Just because you 100% bought into western media bullshit about WMD in Iraq and the incubator babies doesn't mean you have to double down on the next round of obvious bullshit permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago Incubator babies? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Grimble@hexbear.net 29 points 3 years ago (1 child) Did you know that most modern devices come with a builtin filter app to detect Hamas propaganda, as per Israeli law? Press Alt-F4 to activate it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Thordros@hexbear.net 22 points 3 years ago That only works on desktop. On mobile, you need to hold volume up and power, release when the device reboots, scroll to recovery mode using the volume keys, then choose factory reset permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 22 points 3 years ago That only works on desktop. On mobile, you need to hold volume up and power, release when the device reboots, scroll to recovery mode using the volume keys, then choose factory reset permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 25 points 3 years ago Is that before or after they throw them out of the incubators? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FortifiedAttack@hexbear.net 23 points 3 years ago No, so that they can cut off deez nuts: permalink fedilink source parent