this post was submitted on 11 Oct 2023
401 points (73.1% liked)

Fuck Cars

9662 readers
115 users here now

A place to discuss problems of car centric infrastructure or how it hurts us all. Let's explore the bad world of Cars!

Rules

1. Be CivilYou may not agree on ideas, but please do not be needlessly rude or insulting to other people in this community.

2. No hate speechDon't discriminate or disparage people on the basis of sex, gender, race, ethnicity, nationality, religion, or sexuality.

3. Don't harass peopleDon't follow people you disagree with into multiple threads or into PMs to insult, disparage, or otherwise attack them. And certainly don't doxx any non-public figures.

4. Stay on topicThis community is about cars, their externalities in society, car-dependency, and solutions to these.

5. No repostsDo not repost content that has already been posted in this community.

Moderator discretion will be used to judge reports with regard to the above rules.

Posting Guidelines

In the absence of a flair system on lemmy yet, let’s try to make it easier to scan through posts by type in here by using tags:

Recommended communities:

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm pretty sure you can always solve that problem for bikes if you can solve it for cars

If you can't solve it for cars then these places are beyond relevance for urbanism

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

First of all, cars have a much greater grip on the road in icy conditions. So they can handle things like black ice when riding a bicycle on it would be extremely dangerous.

But sure, every small city and town with harsh winters are beyond relevance.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Small city and towns don't have cars now?

Guy who said "don't put words in my mouth" literally 10 minutes ago

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Small cities and towns have a big problem solving things like black ice for cars. Hence the many accidents on days like that when people drive in those conditions. I know because I used to work for the local news station.

But hey, we're beyond relevance.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Beyond relevance period?

I thought I meant beyond relevance for urbanism, and by the way I mostly meant for this discussion about snow on bike lanes.

Guy who said "don't put words in my mouth" literally 10 minutes ago

Small towns going bankrupt is a result of newer means of transportation concentrating centers of activity within a region.

If you can't clean the ice for cars, cleaning it for bikes is cheaper. If you can't do any, then don't do any - you've got worse problems. Thus, irrelevant for this discussion.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought I meant beyond relevance for urbanism

I can't go by what you thought you meant. I went by what you said.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I went by what you said.

You literally didn't. You cut it off mid sentence.

It's insane how you've moved the goalpost from "It's impossible to clean snow off bike lanes" to "it's impossible to clean snow off some bike lanes when the conditions of the bike lanes are very specific" to "it's impossible to clean off bikelanes when the city is tiny and too broke to clean it off roads in the first place"

Guess what? Then don't clean them. Discussion has been moved to a segment of the problem that is so small and uninteresting that and if you had been clear about your message in the first place, nobody would've needed to answer you

Bye

I went by what you said.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's another thing I never said. I never said impossible. And I have always been talking about where I live, not anywhere else. I made that very clear.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Good thing they aren't sharing the road with cars like around here, isn't it?