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Strange, terrorist organization don't seem to pop up in countries with better human rights.
It's a meaningless label. Who decided they were terrorists? You?
If killing civilians is the requirement to be terrorists, every single military on Earth is a terrorist organization. That's what war IS.
Aye I was making my comment in part to humanize the people we call terrorists.
As soon as I've seen your instance - your comment makes sense. Thanks for your opinion I guess lol.
Out of curiosity, what results do you get when you search "US White supremacist militia"?
Those seem like terrorist organizations to me, and I think the U$ has better "human rights" than Gaza.
The US has the largest system of prison slavery on earth, highly militarized police who kill with impunity, and world historical levels of wealth inequality, it's definitely not a good place for human rights.
Sure, but I'm trying to carry the conversation on terms they'll understand.
Fair
Better than gaza maybe, but I seriously hope that the US isn't your best example for a country with good human rights.
Nah, I just thought it'd work as an example with them.
You have a point. Though the US white supremesists haven't launched such organized and open assaults. So maybe it just scales with human rights abuses.
The Oklahoma City bombing was a white supremacist action, I believe.
That's a mid counter argument imo.
Ok
The USA has some of the worst human rights on earth, as evidenced by their massive prison population.
They don't need to because cops can just flat out murder people off the streets. And brownshirts are a thing too they show up at protests to harass the strikers. Also they're not under an active genocide (as much as they try to feign that they are) so there isn't a lot of violence gas to go ham with.
US white supremacists genocided countless Indian tribes. They also rounded them up in reservations and then enforced policies designed to kill them. Look up the Trail of Tears sometime.
There's also the terror campaigns waged by the various Ku Klux Klans and other organizations against African-Americans.
If you want something more recent there's also the Tulsa race massacre. There's also the many, many deputy gangs in the US. Those launch organized and open assaults against other Americans all the time but they're also very distributed so we don't have one big incident to point to.
They can pop up anywhere. Terrorism occurs when extremists of any type had enough of whatever they are upset about and it pushes them over the edge. Whether it is reasonable or not. Regular people can also be pushed to do terrible things with just the right amount of propaganda and other emotional manipulation. Some people just enjoy it.
Believing it cannot happen to you too with enough pressure and lies is wrong.
You have a good point I was a bit too black and white with my comment. There definitely seems to be a correlation between size and violence of terrorist groups, and the human rights of the area they riside in.
Also totally agree that it can happen to me. Gotta acknowledge that you don't really know anything and you are pretty much always just taking someone's word for things. I believe the Earth is round, but I'm just taking people's word for it.