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User data stolen from genetic testing giant 23andMe is now for sale on the dark web
(www.businessinsider.com)
this post was submitted on 08 Oct 2023
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Note: this was from password stuffing and is only profile data, not genetic.
Your genomics can only be downloaded from a link sent to your email account.
Don't reuse your passwords.
The only thing 23andme could have done to prevent this is 2fa.
Not true. It's easy to detect hundreds of thousands of logins from VPN locations. Or parse that someone is logging in from thousands of miles away from their profile location and send an email. There's many simple things to implement that they could have done to protect your account with them. They took the easy route.
While the User does bare most of the blame, claiming that 23andme couldn't do anything else is strictly wrong.
Preventing these kinds of attacks is a nontrivial problem space and is the exact reason why scraping services are a lucrative business.
It is not trivial to prevent dark web actors from using botnets to make requests and it is comparatively inexpensive to access botnets as a service.
Sending emails for suspicious login is 2fa, by the way.
And yet I just explained to you two ways to do it real easily that I've implemented into several platforms. It has been trivial.
Only if you actually block login until link is clicked in email. Just sending an email is not 2fa. You don't need to specifically block the user, a notification would be sufficient for many users to understand "Wait... I didn't login, I should change my password immediately."
If you think that IP blocking stops credential stuffing you really are out of your depth.
Would it stop this guy if he was some skid just running Kali? Absolutely.
But it ain't going to stop anyone more determined. Especially since you're going to let those blocks expire to avoid blocking legitimate customers. A patient opposition with minimal resources will get by that kind of naive approach.
Not only that but you have 0 evidence they didn't IP block. They absolutely could have standard protocols in place but anything short of 2fa is inherently vulnerable.
If you want to move goalposts... Then fine. But I won't engage in that bullshit.
It IS trivial to implement. It is literally a non-zero thing they could have implemented but chose not to. That's all I've claimed.
Go strawman someone else.
You can slow it way the fuck down though if you do it right. But nah, I'm out of my depth supposedly. You sound like a fucking tool.
I think what he was trying to say, implementing those strategies would deter 90% of rookies (using kali toolkit as a service), but not the 10% who got the right technical knowledge and enough motivation to clamp down on what they want.
Or, and hear me out, don’t reuse passwords.
That's what users could have done, not the site.
It’s a cultural thing. My dad always taught me not to share secrets, including different passwords to different people and websites.
I don’t know if kids have internet lessons these days but it feels like that would be very useful; how to use social media, how to approach strange websites and how to recognize misinformation and look for sources online. Basically online-ed. Part of home economics I guess.