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edit: i should make explicit. this meme is prodding at liberals humanizing the soldier of the 14th Waffen SS (1st Galicia) recently honoured in the canadian house of commons. this meme is showing off a ww2 ukrainian nazi unit in a fashion similarly done with the "brave soldiers of afghanistan" who would later become the taliban.

the joke is, we would eventually glorify and humanize them as well with enough time

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[โ€“] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"okay but have you ever considered how bad the soviet union was?? Like im not a Nazi or anything but they did kinda have a reason to genocide Jews because a lot of soviet politicians were Jews and wanted to genocide Aryan Ukrainians to further spread the cancer of judeo-bolchevism."

-Some lib on reddit who is definitely not a nazi sympathizer

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

"The Ukrainian Nazi SS divisions were defending themselves and their culture, their religion from the invaders like the Jews who took to communism because they were poor and jealous and wanted to legally have the wealth of the non-Jewish Ukrainians. You know people get caught up in the race science, but if you ignore that part, the Jews were still bad because they were poor and they wanted to steal wealth! Maybe the Germans and Nazi Ukrainians went too far, but can you blame them! Look at history you tankie! The Russians and Jewish communists did the same to the more "Aryan" types!"

You gotta smash up the obvious antisemitism and repackage it with more contemporary divisions. And toss in some "feels vaguely true" lies to the Americans (mostly, but westerners generally). Few people will openly state they "hate Jews" now days or that they equate Jews with Communism (probably few even know of the history of this equivalency based on how Jordan Peterson has been saying it, in slightly different wording, for like a decade now), but if you tell them some ethnic group is poor and wants their jobs? Well, suddenly border detentions, torture, and even some murder becomes easier to swallow. Different packaging for the same product... liberals love optics and they love defending fascism. Give them a shiny box to place all their terrible ideology in so they can pretend it's justified and they'll be plenty happy. I mean, just look at the fucking world.