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[โ€“] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Netherlands is very much missing from this

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

My thoughts as well. There is a ton of train commuting within the Randstad for example. My girlfriend's company has a surprising number of people who do a daily commute from Rotterdam to Amsterdam as well as places like Den Haag and Haarlem.

If you look at the stats here, The Netherlands ranks 7th nationally for % of trips taken by rail and only Austria and Switzerland are ahead of it out of western European countries.

It also ranks very highly for passenger kilometers which is saying a lot because the country is small as shit, most of the people are packed into an area about 1/3 the size of Belgium, and the overall population is fairly small when compared to places like Spain, France, Italy, and Germany.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_rail_usage

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is a strange drop-off where train travel gets significantly worse for longer distances though.

Commuting within the Randstad, and to a certain degree the provinces of Flevoland, Gelderland and Noord-Brabant is pretty compelling because the network is well connected. Need to get anywhere else though and the benefits of train travel over commuting by car start to disappear quickly.

This also ties into the fact that our public transit is by far the most expensive in the EU (and possibly even worldwide). Which makes traveling by train really only a viable option if you have the money to spare or your employer covers your travel expenses.

A pretty standard daily commute can cost upwards of โ‚ฌ20 per round trip, which comes down to nearly a fifth of a minimum wage budget after taxes. That doesn't well with a housing crisis.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah I do agree the pricing sucks and it's got its shortcomings.

We almost always rent one of those Greenwheels cars to see my girlfriend's folks who live in a smaller town because the alternative is an ordeal. Also we have repeatedly gotten stranded in Haarlem after a night of drinking because the train cuts off surprisingly early (something like 1:30am? I can't remember). Fortunately our place is on the west side of Amsterdam so the Uber is fairly cheap, but it's pretty annoying.

The country could certainly stand to put more money into transit.