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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (20 children)

This is a bad, regressive argument.

We need to legislate the benefit of automation for society.

Trying to bury the technology never works if it is indeed an improvement. Technology is benign, people twist it for malice.

This is the same argument as still using oil based street lamps, just to maintain a the lamplighting jobs that don't need to be done anymore.

It's a Bizaare hill to die on to fight to maintain jobs a robot can do faster and better, rather than fighting to make society the beneficiary of such advances through taxation. Either way, you have to fight the billionaires and will probably lose, so why not fight for a better outcome than maintaining shitty, menial jobs?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This isn't automation though. The self checkout tech is the same tech that a cashier uses. It's not automated. A human still does the work, they just don't get paid for it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I mean, technically the self-checkout package has automation in it, a scale and cameras to "automate" the process of ensuring what was scanned was what was bagged, a process by which the station determines when employee intervention is necessary, etc. Automation tech is in there, things a person used to do are being done by technology, but again it wasn't created to improve the way it was done before, merely to make the owner more money.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

The registers with cashiers also have scales and cameras and systems that are built in to determine when a CSM is required for things like overrides. The tech is not appreciably different. It's not automation.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Our self checkouts completely abandoned the stupid scales except when needed for fruit and such. Enforcing the packing with scales makes for a fucking horrible experience.

I haven't seen any cameras though.

Personally I like that they are more space efficient and time efficient.

Here it is also common to carry around a hand scanner in the store and just pay by docking the scanner without having to pack up anything. It's way quicker.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Seriously, fuck the scales. The grocery store near me recently shut theirs off. I found the manager and thanked him. That thing annoyed the piss out of me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Here it is also common to carry around a hand scanner in the store and just pay by docking the scanner without having to pack up anything. It's way quicker.

I don’t have that here but I do have a regional grocery chain that allows you to use your phone as the scanner as you shop, then you just go to a terminal at the end of your trip and scan a QR code to finalize. I love it.

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