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The Maxxpros, leopards, strykers, bradlys, and even the challengers failed. Now these tanks are supposed to be ukraine's last hope?

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Brazilian armed forces have Leopard 1s. It's the love of our tank units.

Yet, I recall when they compared to the Venezuelan T-72s, they have lower mobility, higher maintenance costs, smaller calibre guns, and a ridiculously short reach for a tank.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (10 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

EE-T1 Osório would still be a decent tank nowadays, judging by the data. It feels like one of these T-64 and T-72 mixed with Western tanks (usually M60 and Leopard 2) derivates that Iran and China made in the 90s and 2000s

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

it towed the beloved abrams, that is all the info we need

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No wonder the gringos did all they could to sabotage Engesa. Nowadays, it'd likely work better - if they had a partnership with another bigger power like Pakistan or India did with China and Russia, respectively. Or a government that's actually interested in self-preservation like the DPRK or Iran.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

unless we had a socialist government, is very unlikely that brazil would sell top notch weaponry to drpk.

overall i agree, brazil doing defense partnership with global south would be nice

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didn't quite mean selling, but learning how to make what we need in-house without relying on others - something DPRK and Iran did. Iran specially has developed a tank named Zulfiqar that's a lot like the EE-T1.

But you're right; we'd need a socialist government for any such events to develop. And for closer ties with the rest of the South.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Sem problemas, camarada ^^

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Elaborate, please? Do you mean towed as in was better? Or towed literally?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

literally towed. something as a whacky race of tanks, the abrams engine caught fire and osorio towed it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Geez. Thanks for the explanation

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