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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
  • USSR goes to shit and collapses
  • you give up your nukes
  • you allow shock doctrine into your country
  • you embrace capitalism, but you never rise up to your former soviet standards
  • your politicians blame the failures of capitalism on a country that no longer exists and ideology that is no longer a competition
  • capitalists in the west keep pushing anti communism into your country
  • communism and nazism is branded as the same thing
  • but then your politicians run out of heroes to praise now that communism evil
  • government gives surface level praise to Makhno because he fought both sides, but is also anarchist so they can’t praise him too much
  • last resort is to start praising Nazis because they wanted “Ukrainian independence”
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My basic understanding of it is if you think both capitalism and communism failed, there is one ideology left to try, and these people have been indoctrinated with "communism bad and doesn't work" for the last 30 years. The collapse of the Soviet Union would be a sign to the uneducated and/or propagandized that communism doesn't work, and the last 30 years of Ukrainian history have made it clear that capitalism doesn't work. Depressed civilians then turn to the last major ideology that is coincidentally being propped up by both national and international interests, and you have the absolute disgrace that is Nazism and fascism in Ukraine today.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I wonder how they come to terms with their ancestors died fighting so Ukrainians don’t have to be enslaved by Germans