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Man, Firefox just kind of sucks balls now huh (thelemmy.club)
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Stop shoving AI shit into my face every five seconds thanks

Also I just hate hate hate how AI companies think we're all morons that need everything spoonfed to us by an LLM and are constantly trying to get us to self-lobotomise

umm grok pls tell me what this says me no read long sentences good : (((( except its not even some dense scientific paper but just a news article

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[–] 27 points 3 days ago (9 children)

It's also just slow.

The latest version on Linux on my machine will sit there and not open any tabs for a couple dozen seconds. Oh sure, you can type text into the url bar! But pressing enter? Doesn't seemingly do anything at first.

And then BAM! A billion tabs finally open!

Like what the hell? This is a mid 2010's business laptop! Is having a hard drive the thing that causes this shit? Really? What the fuck?

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  • [–] 20 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    If it's been in use that whole time and that's the original hard drive that's almost certainly part of the problem. That said, I'm on a low-end gaming PC and I also have performance issues with firefox on linux so it's not the only problem.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    It's no speed demon but the hard drive is in plenty adequate health, and everything else on the laptop opens in plenty acceptable times.

    Cold boots aren't unreasonable too!

    But you open firefox and it's just...... UUUUUGH!

    Ghidra is second slowest but that's mostly relegated to it being a complicated Java program that creates and accessed multiple gigabyte sized documents. Even still the GUI and things respond plenty quickly. It's only really saving, opening, and fill file analysis that takes time.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 days ago (4 children)

    Chromium is definitely faster but also no Linux distribution enjoys packaging chromium (the secret to building chromium is to first become a Google engineer).

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  • [–] 17 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    The Gentoo maintainers finally threw in the towel on Chromium about a week ago.

    Portage output / rationale

    !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy "chromium" have been masked.
!!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request:
- www-client/chromium-151.0.7922.169-r1::gentoo (masked by: package.mask)
/var/db/repos/gentoo/profiles/package.mask:
# Sam James <sam@gentoo.org> (2026-09-24)
# Increasingly challenging to maintain with increased release cadence,
# upstream toolchain changes, and conflicts between trying to provide
# a consistent experience for Gentoo users (avoiding bundled where possible)
# vs. getting updates out in a timely manner.  Many unfixed vulnerabilities.
#
# Keeping it in ::gentoo isn't a matter of just supplying an updated ebuild,
# but a commitment to keeping it up to date and finding a compromise between
# users' expectations (like various USE flags & not forcing all bundled
# components) and maintainability.
#
# Still supported packages include:
#   www-client/google-chrome variants
# Other chromium-based browsers:
#   www-client/microsoft-edge
#   www-client/opera
#   www-client/vivaldi
# qtwebengine-based browsers (uses chromium's engine):
#   kde-apps/konqueror
#   www-client/falkon
#   www-client/qutebrowser
# Other browsers:
#   www-client/firefox and www-client/firefox-bin
#   www-client/seamonkey
#
# Removal on 2026-10-24.  Bug #982204.

    Bug mentioned: https://bugs.gentoo.org/982204

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  • [–] 12 points 3 days ago*

    Yeah I can hardly blame them, chromium maintainer rebuilds require high end hardware that still then take weeks and you have to do that every week. Qtwebengine and webkit-gtk still give me nightmares.

    Firefox has an established relationship with downstreams and has a consistent release cadence.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 days ago

    I know the last version of firefox that's compatible with Android 4.1 is weirdly slow, even on reasonably specced low end devices in my stash.

    "reasonably specced low end" as in "1.0GiB of RAM, and two or four cores at a decent clock speed."

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