So many online services, so much legal information, usually written in confusing ways.

For example, in data processing addendum, Porkbun uses the term "Controller", which is defined as:

(d) “Controller” as used in this DPA, means Customer.

Why not just call it Customer?

Worse yet, just like many services, Purelymail has this in their ToS:

The Company reserves the right to change this agreement at any time. You are responsible for regularly reviewing these Terms. Continued use of the Service after such changes shall constitute your consent to them.

In this case, there isn't even a date of last update. Am I supposed to have some scripts scraping all legal documents of most services every hour and comparing checksums to figure out if something has changed?

But how should I even keep track of legal agreements of many many companies including any affiliated third parties I implicitly agree to use?

Because it sounds like I should also be concerned about those:

Sub-processors authorised under Section 7 of the DPA process the personal data described above for the purposes listed above and only for the duration necessary to perform the sub-processed activity.


If I was to read, understand, and keep track of everything, I feel that would in fact just become my full-time job. Especially since they often also reference laws, something I would also need to know and understand.

Subject to applicable law [...]

Which is what?

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[–] 3 points 6 hours ago (1 child)

I know from my jurisdiction, that they can't hide unusual clauses. So there is no point of fully reading the ToS, because most of it can be just the standard shit. I usually just look what am I allowed to do and what not and what are the limits. Before a law changed here about canceling, I read that part as well, but now I know the minimum by law, which they can't get worse. For example that subscriptions can only renew on a monthly bases at some point and that canceling needs to be that easy as you can subscribe. If you can subscribe in 2 clicks online on their website, you need to be able to cancel within 2 clicks as well on their website.

The rest is standard shit. You own nothing, they can terminate at any time, they can't be held accountable and so on. The neat part is, this isn't even true. They can't make me wave my copyright, termination must be within reason and they can held be accountable for certain things. Of course I would need to go to court, to fight it, but certain things quickly fall in court.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 6 hours ago

    Problem is, there may be hidden limitations to how you can use the service.

    And so far the worst thing I read was ToS of student-run network provider at the dormitory of University I went to, which stated that in case of suspicion the user is required to allow access to his/her computer. If refused, it would be treated as a confirmation of the suspicion, and the result could be disciplinary action from the University.
    And the full rules were so tight you basically immediately broke them by connecting to the network.

    When I asked about it, they assured me those rules are never actually imposed, but nah.

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