β² 7 βΌ Question: find ANY diet in which a person can bulk BUT they cannot eat any starch, fructose, dairy proteins, or meat please (lemmy.world) submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by UnequalExchange@lemmy.world to c/fitness@lemmy.world 39 comments fedilink hide all child comments .... Go! (π«©or should I just start drinking cooking oil at this point? π«©) Edit: sorry , forgot to add that I cant eat any nuts or seeds
[β] ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 day ago (3 children) impossible burgers are good ones For an ultra processed fast food, yes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [β] bizarroland@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children) I mean, yes, of course it's ultra processed. It's vegetables being tricked to have the consistency of not vegetables. But the question wasn't, "How can I eat the healthiest calories on the planet?" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] UnequalExchange@lemmy.world [S] 1 point 21 hours ago (1 child) Ya the 'healthiness' of the diet is completely irrelevant. I take a bunch of supplements and multivitamins so micro nutrients have nver been a concern for me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [β] ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip 1 point 17 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) I take a bunch of supplements and multivitamins Jesus. You Americans (or your nationality of choice) are crazy. If your food requires you to take a bunch of those, either: you are ill, and in need of professional help it is not food fit for human consumption. Assuming first, you gaining weight might be hard, so if you have chronic health issues you should've mentioned that. Hormone issues can literally prevent "bulking up". Assuming second option, to bulk up you need proteins and calories surplus and exercise. You can eat anything that meets your other criterions as long as you make sure of that, even paper or tree bark with coconut oil. Soy is the best plant based protein source - highest DIAAS score. When you prepare it correctly (protein combining, predigestion) it goes up to 0.9, which is 2/3 of a chicken. Impossible meat has DIAAS score of 0.86. This is the tricky part about vegan diet compared to omnivore diet - plants have lower bioavailability than meat. You need to aim into eating more proteins per kilogram, ideally 2.5g per kg of target weight (vs 1.6 - 2.0 on omnivore diet). So if your target weight is 180 pounds/80kg thats about 200 gram per day of proteins. That is quite a lot, so likely you'll have to eat 5 dishes a day, each with about 40g of proteins. That is massive amount of food, a lot of fiber, you might get bloated or constipated, so soy/pea protein isolate powder might be something you want to look into (to help you meet the protein threshold, not to be your main source of protein) - and if you're gonna incorporate it into your long term diet, you need to rotate brands and protein powder sources (rice, pea, soy, blends, etc etc). permalink fedilink source parent
[β] bizarroland@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children) I mean, yes, of course it's ultra processed. It's vegetables being tricked to have the consistency of not vegetables. But the question wasn't, "How can I eat the healthiest calories on the planet?" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] UnequalExchange@lemmy.world [S] 1 point 21 hours ago (1 child) Ya the 'healthiness' of the diet is completely irrelevant. I take a bunch of supplements and multivitamins so micro nutrients have nver been a concern for me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [β] ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip 1 point 17 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) I take a bunch of supplements and multivitamins Jesus. You Americans (or your nationality of choice) are crazy. If your food requires you to take a bunch of those, either: you are ill, and in need of professional help it is not food fit for human consumption. Assuming first, you gaining weight might be hard, so if you have chronic health issues you should've mentioned that. Hormone issues can literally prevent "bulking up". Assuming second option, to bulk up you need proteins and calories surplus and exercise. You can eat anything that meets your other criterions as long as you make sure of that, even paper or tree bark with coconut oil. Soy is the best plant based protein source - highest DIAAS score. When you prepare it correctly (protein combining, predigestion) it goes up to 0.9, which is 2/3 of a chicken. Impossible meat has DIAAS score of 0.86. This is the tricky part about vegan diet compared to omnivore diet - plants have lower bioavailability than meat. You need to aim into eating more proteins per kilogram, ideally 2.5g per kg of target weight (vs 1.6 - 2.0 on omnivore diet). So if your target weight is 180 pounds/80kg thats about 200 gram per day of proteins. That is quite a lot, so likely you'll have to eat 5 dishes a day, each with about 40g of proteins. That is massive amount of food, a lot of fiber, you might get bloated or constipated, so soy/pea protein isolate powder might be something you want to look into (to help you meet the protein threshold, not to be your main source of protein) - and if you're gonna incorporate it into your long term diet, you need to rotate brands and protein powder sources (rice, pea, soy, blends, etc etc). permalink fedilink source parent
[β] UnequalExchange@lemmy.world [S] 1 point 21 hours ago (1 child) Ya the 'healthiness' of the diet is completely irrelevant. I take a bunch of supplements and multivitamins so micro nutrients have nver been a concern for me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [β] ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip 1 point 17 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) I take a bunch of supplements and multivitamins Jesus. You Americans (or your nationality of choice) are crazy. If your food requires you to take a bunch of those, either: you are ill, and in need of professional help it is not food fit for human consumption. Assuming first, you gaining weight might be hard, so if you have chronic health issues you should've mentioned that. Hormone issues can literally prevent "bulking up". Assuming second option, to bulk up you need proteins and calories surplus and exercise. You can eat anything that meets your other criterions as long as you make sure of that, even paper or tree bark with coconut oil. Soy is the best plant based protein source - highest DIAAS score. When you prepare it correctly (protein combining, predigestion) it goes up to 0.9, which is 2/3 of a chicken. Impossible meat has DIAAS score of 0.86. This is the tricky part about vegan diet compared to omnivore diet - plants have lower bioavailability than meat. You need to aim into eating more proteins per kilogram, ideally 2.5g per kg of target weight (vs 1.6 - 2.0 on omnivore diet). So if your target weight is 180 pounds/80kg thats about 200 gram per day of proteins. That is quite a lot, so likely you'll have to eat 5 dishes a day, each with about 40g of proteins. That is massive amount of food, a lot of fiber, you might get bloated or constipated, so soy/pea protein isolate powder might be something you want to look into (to help you meet the protein threshold, not to be your main source of protein) - and if you're gonna incorporate it into your long term diet, you need to rotate brands and protein powder sources (rice, pea, soy, blends, etc etc). permalink fedilink source parent
[β] ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip 1 point 17 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) I take a bunch of supplements and multivitamins Jesus. You Americans (or your nationality of choice) are crazy. If your food requires you to take a bunch of those, either: you are ill, and in need of professional help it is not food fit for human consumption. Assuming first, you gaining weight might be hard, so if you have chronic health issues you should've mentioned that. Hormone issues can literally prevent "bulking up". Assuming second option, to bulk up you need proteins and calories surplus and exercise. You can eat anything that meets your other criterions as long as you make sure of that, even paper or tree bark with coconut oil. Soy is the best plant based protein source - highest DIAAS score. When you prepare it correctly (protein combining, predigestion) it goes up to 0.9, which is 2/3 of a chicken. Impossible meat has DIAAS score of 0.86. This is the tricky part about vegan diet compared to omnivore diet - plants have lower bioavailability than meat. You need to aim into eating more proteins per kilogram, ideally 2.5g per kg of target weight (vs 1.6 - 2.0 on omnivore diet). So if your target weight is 180 pounds/80kg thats about 200 gram per day of proteins. That is quite a lot, so likely you'll have to eat 5 dishes a day, each with about 40g of proteins. That is massive amount of food, a lot of fiber, you might get bloated or constipated, so soy/pea protein isolate powder might be something you want to look into (to help you meet the protein threshold, not to be your main source of protein) - and if you're gonna incorporate it into your long term diet, you need to rotate brands and protein powder sources (rice, pea, soy, blends, etc etc). permalink fedilink source parent