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[serious] Why is Lemmy community generaly against AI? (lemmy.ml)
submitted 8 hours ago by to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world
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I noticed almost everybody here agrees that all AI is bad, and anything produced by AI is slop. and refuse to use any software made in part or in whole with AI or help of AI? Please mention your background and usage of AI with your answer.

I also posted it here.

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[+] -10 points 8 hours ago (9 children)

That messaging is why the luddites are considered silly.

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  • [–] 20 points 7 hours ago (5 children)

    The Luddites are why we got Saturdays off...

    If you think they're silly it's because you fell for old ass propaganda.

    They wanted to make sure as worker output went up, wages went up.

    They were fine with looms, they just wanted paid accordingly.

    When owners wouldn't negotiate, they burnt the fucking looms down.

    Literally ba 1:1 analogy to today's data centers and AI.

    Wake the fuck up already and learn history

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  • [–] -3 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

    Oh yeah the angry old man again rambling and totally not comprehending the words he is reading.

    I think most people in your life probably stop listening half way through your senten—

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  • [–] -2 points 7 hours ago (1 child)

    That is a completely different message than what the top comment in this thread is saying though. Somehow the capitalists have been able to paint a picture of luddites that is more like the top comment, i.e. something vague about distancing us from our work instead of receiving fair wages. And that message actually is silly.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 hours ago

    Sounds the same to me. It is through our labor that purpose is found. Capitalists would have you believe that the luddites were entirely frivolous, as it was owners of capital who profited from the destruction of their labor.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 hours ago* (1 child)

    I find them interesting because as a movement in retrospect it has been branded that way, as being silly and frivolous. I personally am not so sure they weren't making a good point with their actions. Probably though, in 30 years, reactions towards the current automation of certain jobs will be seen similarly as frivolity. Those people won't have a good idea what exactly it is people were trying to protect. In the same sense that people now have trouble understanding what the Luddites were losing to react the way they did. Nobody thinks about the labor behind the clothes they wear now, because of how ugly that reality is.

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  • [–] -4 points 7 hours ago

    Probably though, in 30 years, reactions towards the current automation of certain jobs will be seen similarly as frivolity.

    Honestly, it already looks ridiculous.

    To be clear, I think the automation of jobs is, at least in the immediate, a serious problem, with real consequences. The problem is real. The issue is that objecting to the technology itself is idiotic. That's not a fight you'll win. The technology exists. People are going to use it. And in the long run we'll all be better off for it.

    There's serious conversations to be had about how we use AI, and how we deal with the consequences of its use, and especially how we manage the transition. But you can't have those conversations with someone who insists that AI is the devil and that we need to stop it, and who gets mad at you when you suggest otherwise.

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