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Not about choosing sides, just choosing to make music with my old friend. Praying for all of us. #HealMyFaith @KidRock

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Eminem Defends New Kid Rock Collaboration

Kid Rock and Eminem's new collaboration has been turning heads. Though the pair have been friends for decades, their political views are famously opposed, as Kid Rock is an avid MAGA supporter and Eminem is a vocal critic of Trump. In a new post, Eminem defended his decision to work with the controversial figure.

"Not about choosing sides, just choosing to make music with my old friend. Praying for all of us," Eminem wrote about "Heal My Faith," which comes from Kid Rock's new Christian album Halfway 2 Jesus. In his verse, Eminem raps, "From shock rap to the rock rap, my homie and me/ He is my brother, not my political enemy."

In an interview with Billboard, Kid Rock said about Eminem, "We've been friends for, like, 40 years. I really didn't want to drag him into my political world…. We talk about [politics] a little bit, not a ton. There's a lot of stuff we agree on, and we can have a laugh about what [we don't]. That's why I asked him to write a verse for me."

Last month, Kid Rock was supposed to perform at a MAGA festival in Kentucky but it was canceled because only six people bought VIP tickets.

This is the lyrics to the Kid Rock song featuring Eminem. The song was released yesterday. Lil Wayne is also featured on a different track of the album.
https://genius.com/Kid-rock-heal-my-faith-lyrics

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[–] 1 point 3 hours ago* (1 child)

there is a difference between knowing history and cherry-picking it to argue for a pre-conceived notion. i could use the exact same "methodology" and argue for the exact opposite point, bringing up how the holy synod's role in tsarist repression was opposed by other sects (dukhobors, molokans and others), as well as even dissident orthodox clergy. i could mention how european colonisers repressed indigenous african, indian and middle eastern forms of christianity. i could point out how the cathars you mentioned, being massacred during the albigensian crusade, viewed themselves as a christian sect as well. i could also mention how liberation theology provided invaluable help to liberation movements in latin america, talk about hilarion capucci and vlada zečević, etc., etc…

also, would it in your eyes be just to condemn all of islam due to daesh? would you go so far as to denounce all of buddhism because of the rohingya genocide? how about declaring all of judaism to be equal with religious zionism, or using modi and the bjp as a reason to smear all 1.2 billion hindus as an irredeemable evil? so let',s not argue against caricatures.

you mentioned the bourgeois french revolutionaries trying to abolish religion. did they succeed? condemning ordinary religious people is a needless own-goal. it's a great way to make enemies of a sizeable majority of the global working class for no benefit.

(also, as a side note, do you have a source for that gabrielle quote? i'd like to read it in context.)

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    No. You can't actually argue the opposite. The Dukhobors, Molokans, Old Believers, and whatever else have not done "The opposite" of what is claimed, they did not oppose colonialism, they didn't stand against pogroms, they retreated from broader concerns and when they do get involved in broader politics it isn't as a progressive force or to stand against reaction. Name dropping the orthodox equivalent of Amish or LARPers isn't going to win you this argument.

    so let',s not argue against caricatures.

    It isn't a caricature to point out that the organised hierarchy of a centralised organisation has engaged in systemic action that should colour our perception of it. It is frankly absurd to argue otherwise.

    The only things you can point to in defence of Christianity is any point where it has not held institutional power, and then you transpose that to defending the institutional power wielded for reaction.

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