What do you think? America #1?

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[–] 6 points 2 days ago (9 children)

I get what you mean, things are awful and I don’t want to take away from that. You definitely have an argument that we are one of the worst things to happen in modern history, but we are also a relatively young country, and the horrors of history are vast. Just off the top of my head:

  • The fall of Rome.
  • When Vlad the Impaler impaled.
  • The Crusades.
  • The Napoleonic Wars.
  • The Black Plague.
  • WWII (as the deadliest conflict in human history).
  • The Taiping Rebellion.
  • The Spanish Flu.
  • The Second Sino-Japanese War.
  • The Congo Genocide.

America stands in a long line of powerful civilizations who have royally fucked things up for everybody.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    funny that you put the fall of rome, as I would put the rise of rome. lots and lots of people were killed or enslaved or worse.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 days ago

    I don't know, US lead sanctions alone have killed ~40 million people since 1970, that's top contender numbers already without even beginning to factor in the direct and indirect effects of their multiple wars such as their war of extermination against the DPRK, their carpet bombing of Vietnam and it's neighbours alongside the chemical and biological weapons that still have negative effects to this day, or the destruction of Libya etc.

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    Even though I posted this, I don't know if I actually think it's worth investigating... A lot more people on the planet in the last 80 year than there were at any other point in time, and america has had a hell of a run. Best not to dwell on any of it lol P:

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  • [–] 9 points 2 days ago

    if genghis khan had control over the modern american military industrial complex i’d imagine he’d do similar things with it. evil has worldly limits even if the impulses may be the same

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