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[–] 6 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

I lost it during Raiders of the Lost Ark when Indy stowed away on the outside of a U-boat and then rode it like a thousand miles across the Mediterranean or wherever they were. I guess they thought submarines just buttoned up when they left port and nobody ever went outside on the conning tower. And they never dove or anything.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 hours ago (1 child)

    It's been way too long since I watched Raiders, but I remember it being great so I'll have to watch it again.

    That definitely sounds stupid. The only saving grace might be that U-boats, unlike modern submarines, very rarely went underwater. They had diesel engines that ran the engines on the surface and also charged batteries. They could use the batteries underwater, but they didn't last long. When they attacked they'd go underwater so they could ambush the ships they were attacking. But, to set up for that attack they'd race ahead of the ship while staying above the water, then go under for the ambush. Even a lot of the attacking happened above the water. Yes, they had torpedoes, but they also had deck guns. Since their targets were mostly commercial ships, they didn't have to worry about the ships shooting back.

    On the other hand, the fact they were used on the surface meant that there was almost always a crew on the conning tower. Technically you could do everything without using the conning tower bridge. But, they almost never did. Even during storms they were up on the conning tower, not sheltering inside. It was awful being exposed to the elements like that, but the visibility through a periscope was awful compared to standing outside.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 minutes ago*

    U-boats, unlike modern submarines, very rarely went underwater

    I've read a lot of memoirs from WWII submariners (German, American and British - not sure if there are any Japanese memoirs in existence) and they always made test dives at the start of a trip, just to make sure everything was shipshape. Even if they somehow hadn't noticed Indy clinging desperately to the conning tower, he would have been left behind pretty early on. Unless he had gills like Kevin Costner in Waterworld.

    Even a lot of the attacking happened above the water. Yes, they had torpedoes, but they also had deck guns.

    Fun fact: the British experimented with subs that mounted a (fixed) 12" gun taken from a decommissioned battleship. The idea was that they would surface just enough to expose the gun and then blast enemy merchant ships. This actually sort of worked, except that the remote-firing mechanism tended to get water in it and the gun would shoot its own barrel off. And since the barrel was wire-wrapped (a technique the Brits loved) the blown-off part would stay attached and act as an anchor.

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