One strength : we can do it in groups.

One weakness : uses models.


What's up with the downvotes. Did I accidentally contradict a dogma?


Ok, allow me to explicitly state the popular belief that I seem to be contradicting here.

Science is perfect. It has no weaknesses.

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[–] 10 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (8 children)

Any part of your brain that makes a decision is modeling the world. Anything that causes you to feel surprise is modeling the world. A plant that turns its leaves toward the sun is modeling the world. A bacterium that follows a nutrient gradient is modeling the world.

Nothing can live without modeling its world.

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  • [–] [S] -5 points 15 hours ago (6 children)

    Let's start with observation.The rest is debatable.

    I doubt that modelling is necessary. In fact that assertion contradicts my own observation.

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  • [–] [S] -2 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

    Spoken like a true believer :)

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  • [–] 3 points 13 hours ago* (3 children)

    I make no bones about that. There is science and there is ignorance.

    Also I would point out that you have a mental model of what a true believer is. I have one, too. And according to my model, there is no insult in believing something that can be established by evidence.

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 13 hours ago* (2 children)

    But what is established (a model) and the evidence (observed phenomena) are qualitatively differ. Extremely so. So there is that vast loss in the translation.

    One sketches a banana and, examining the sketch, concludes that bananas are 2d.

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 13 hours ago

    It's a metaphor. It illustrates the failing of models. Consider how your models might similarly fail. But beyond that detail, the fact remains, in the translation from observation to model there is a world of loss.

    One cannot eat the word "banana" and gain nutrition, after all. I think we can agree on that.

    And look how this conversation has digressed from a listing of science's strengths and weaknesses into a defense of science and a trouncing of the unbeliever. Emotional. Unattractive.

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