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"Public spaces belong to the public by right. And the unhoused public, who have the greatest need for public spaces, have therefore the greatest right" (slrpnk.net)
submitted 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) by to c/memes@slrpnk.net
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I kinda made this post out of spite for the fact the most previous post in this community, whose title I quoted/copied, was getting so many downvotes... At the time I posted this, the previous post had about a 30% downvote rate, and it really, really made me mad.

I am relieved tho to see people in the comments here who have real, actual empathy for their fellow humans. Thank you for contributing here.

It blows my mind how normalized it is to hate on those who are struggling. Especially in 20fucking23 when so many of us now are on the verge of it ourselves. Let's be better, everyone - to everyone. I beg you.

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[–] 21 points 3 years ago (16 children)

A friend of mine once said "no one healthy wakes up one day and decides to try heroin, just for fun."

That really stuck with me. There are many reasons why people use substances, and there are many reasons why people may refuse help. This doesn't make them less than. You, as an outsider, have no knowledge or understanding of the circumstances that lead them to where they now are.

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  • [+] -7 points 3 years ago* (15 children)

    A 30+ year long friend of mine overdosed and died a few months ago. Don’t talk to me about what makes people become junkies. The fact is- ALL of them chose to remain so.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 years ago (13 children)

    Being in perpetual debilitating pain from botched operations, wounds sustained during battle or plain accidents are not a choice. Neither is having any number of diseases that leaves you in said chronic pain.

    The healthcare system is nothing but an administrative nightmare in many places, and it can be nigh impossible to get the help needed to recover to a functional life depending on where you live.

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  • [+] -8 points 3 years ago (12 children)

    No one made someone an addict but themselves. Period. FULL STOP.

    And the sooner we stop coddling addicts, the better for them- and everyone they make to suffer by their side.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 years ago (11 children)

    You've clearly never lived with any sort of chronic pain condition. I've only ever gotten fentanyl once - in the hospital, with a doctor's hand inside my stomach. You also clearly have no idea how hard it is to rebuild a normal life after several surgeries that don't end well.

    I'd be dead or in the streets too except I happen to live somewhere halfway decent, and even then I barely get by on a monthly script. Do you have any idea how it feels when your insides are filled with cysts? Ever had your intestines on the outside of your body involuntarily? How about breaking open your nose bone to get even more cysts out?

    You feel like people unlucky enough to go through things like that should just suck it up for their remaining years? It's just a little pain, right?

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  • [–] -5 points 3 years ago (10 children)

    I absolutely live with chronic pain. Both a debilitating herniated disc, and fibromyalgia. And I manage it without becoming a junkie.

    Don’t think you know someone because of a few paragraphs on the internet.

    Lastly, I didn’t say people shouldn’t take pain medications. Don’t be fucking stupid. You’re manufacturing an argument out of nothing.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago (9 children)

    Those "paragraphs" has been the past 6 years of my life. My son was 3 when I got sick, and he's only ever seen me lie in bed or hobble around awkwardly.

    I'm not manufacturing anything, I'm living it.

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  • [–] -2 points 3 years ago (8 children)

    Are you a heroin junkie living in a tent?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (7 children)

    No, but I'd be homeless (and I have been, albeit for a short time) right now and probably on something illegal if I didn't live where I do. Whether you call it an addiction or not I can't function (read: move) without opiates daily, and I get monthly injections as well. I have 12 different daily medications atm. Do you think I choose to live like this?

    Before I got sick I was a respected special ed. teacher. Now I'm nothing. Life isn't as black and white as you seem to think it is. If I didn't have a caring wife and son there's no reason to think I would have any semblance of a life. Many are not lucky enough to have someone.

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  • [–] -3 points 3 years ago* (6 children)

    No,

    Then you’re clearly not who I’m taking about. So knock off the uppity white-knight-for-opioids nonsense and come back to the wheelhouse of the discussion-

    I’m taking about HOMELESS HEROIN JUNKIES HERE IN SEATTLE.

    Stop manufacturing an argument.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (5 children)

    Last time I checked the world is quite a bit larger than Seattle.

    This discussion is incredibly relevant to the situation at large - I'm not even american and still I was affected by your opiate issues.

    Stocks didn't get refilled, scripts had to be changed and there's an incredible stigma surrounding the whole thing - one that you're perpetuating with these very arguments.

    You're dehumanising human beings in pain. They can be vile, terrible persons for sure, I'm not arguing against that, but you're still dehumanising them.

    Why would they be nice to you in return when you've already written them off like this, I wonder?

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  • [–] -1 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    And to add- do you honest think kindness and compassion works on a heroin junkie needing a fix? Unless you’ve been through it, watched a close fried for over 40 years DIE from it, and seen people murdered over it-

    Shut the fuck up about it.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (2 children)

    I lost my best friend to an overdose, yes. It was intentional, and his third attempt, but he did succeed in the end. Can't blame him though, as he had a titanium hip that made his life a living hell and no access to legit medicine because doctors are afraid to prescribe them.

    Your insults make you sound like a petulant child considering the topic at hand. Do you think they somehow make anything better?

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