Woman friend 1 said that it's personal and for some people it's a big deal, and not for others. Sex is unique in a lot of ways. She didn't outright reject the karaoke comparison, but did emphasize that different people have different experiences and attach different meaning to it. She didn't reject the comparison, but didn't especially love it. Treating sex as meaningless has its own perils, she said n

Woman friend 2 reached for "like doing LSD or mushrooms for the first time" rather than karaoke, but didn't reject the comparison.

Both reject purity culture and the idea of virginity as something you lose, and rejected your take from your top post.

I'm not going to post screenshots because the conversations had a lot of personal details.