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[–] 1 point 2 days ago (4 children)

The conscription military only works when people feel their country is worth defending. There are plenty of people who declined to serve for moral reasons. There are plenty of reasons to criticize the system (gender equality rises to mind).

I think part of the reason the Finnish political system serves the people more than some others is because it needs to. We have our problems of course, a lot of the population is old, so prioritizing young people doesn't always happen the way it ought to. Still, most people are OK with going, very few support abolishing the system because we know we all are needed to make attacking us fucking suck.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago (3 children)

    What I never understand about this reasoning...when "most" people feel this way, why is it compulsory and needs fines? If everybody and their grandma is happy defending the country, they could go voluntarily. Who cares about the threefiddy people who don't go? They would be shitty comrades in the trenches anyway. So, why are people forced, then?

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  • [–] 2 points 10 hours ago (1 child)

    What I never understand about this reasoning…when “most” people feel this way, why is it compulsory and needs fines?

    Well, what are you doing to give back to society, apart from posting on Lemmy about every form of compulsion being slavery?

    People increasingly treat society and the state as a giant free-for-all where everything has to be provided by an abstract entity rather than a community where you participate.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 hours ago

    Well, what are you doing to give back to society

    😅👍

    For once, I served as conscript. Even did three months extra. Funnily enough that is not so much what I consider my most interesting contribution to society.

    "Community" and "participation" are the keywords here. I feel like being bullied to do something is not very "participate in something". It's just being bullied.

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