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[–] 4 points 1 day ago* (10 children)

Even if the world sucks, the logical, smart response would not be despair and depression, because that fixes nothing.

How logically do most people act, in your estimation? How logically would they act, if an unbearable depression descended upon them through looking at the shape of the world today? How many active genocides are taking place? How quickly will climate change destroy our way of life, and is there anything you, as an individual, can do to stop it? What about food and water insecurity being faced by millions of people? Millions of Americans, even? Lack of healthcare, the widening income gap between the 1% and everyone else? What can you logically do to address these global, ever worsening issues?

Perhaps the fact that you can't do anything about these very real issues can also be a source of depression? Especially when you're struggling just to keep your head above the metaphorical water?

One of the last vestiges of hope is a belief in karma. That the evil people perpetuating these evil things will one day face justice. But that's not true, is it? kissinger never faced consequences. Somehow I doubt trump or netenyahoo will either.

I imagine your answer is probably something along the lines of "focus on your immediate needs and community." Which boils down to, ignore these problems, because there's nothing you can do. Kinda like telling an employee aboard a star ship to tidy their working area as the main computer counts down the self-destruction sequence.

I, for one, cannot imagine that Sisyphus is happy.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 day ago (9 children)

    Ok here's a counterpoint, sure the world sucks in that all the things you mentioned are happening, but also - compared to the conditions we were genetically programmed to endure, modern life is amazing. For the vast majority of people, our base biological needs are met effortlessly. The majority of human existence has historically been a struggle for calories. Like, thats it. That's 99% of your life: either hunting, foraging, farming, or directly supporting the people in your family who do. Also, the strong dominating the weak wasn't even questioned it was just a fact of life.

    Transport one of those people from the hunter-gatherer/bronze age/iron age/midevial era and they would be ecstatic in the modern day. Try to tell them about Netanyahu or Trump and they would probably say "wow they sound like an asshole but not as bad as the guys I had to deal with".

    There are no objectively good or bad human conditions. Things can always be better or worse. People's emotions and perception of human conditions, therefore, are all about whether they perceive things are getting better or worse. The good part about that is it gives you agency. All most people have to do to be happy is improve their quality of life, or adjust how they perceive the world in order to give themselves a more positive outlook.

    Tldr get tf off of Lemmy and the rest of social media

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  • [–] 1 point 7 hours ago (2 children)

    All most people have to do to be happy is improve their quality of life, or adjust how they perceive the world in order to give themselves a more positive outlook.

    Just pull yourself up by your bootstraps and imagine yourself happy!

    Not trying to be flippant but... not good advice.

    Also I think trump has probably raped more children than most mean midevial guys.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 hours ago (1 child)

    It IS good advice I swear to god. Its not even controversial its what any therapist would tell you. Make lifestyle changes and improve your mindset.

    Yeah Trump is a bad dude but tell me with a straight face hes worse then Genghis Kahn or Vlad the Impaler.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 hours ago

    wasn't Genghis Kahn like, famously benevolent to his men and tolerant of other beliefs and customs?

    The principal source of steppe wealth was post-battle plunder, of which a leader would normally claim a large share; Genghis eschewed this custom, choosing instead to divide booty equally between himself and all his men.[209] Disliking any form of luxury, he extolled the simple life of the nomad in a letter to Changchun, and objected to being addressed with obsequious flattery. He encouraged his companions to address him informally, give him advice, and criticise his mistakes.[210] Genghis's openness to criticism and willingness to learn saw him seeking the knowledge of family members, companions, neighbouring states, and enemies.[211] He sought and gained knowledge of sophisticated weaponry from China and the Muslim world, appropriated the Uyghur alphabet with the help of the captured scribe Tata-tonga, and employed numerous specialists across legal, commercial, and administrative fields

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  • [–] 1 point 7 hours ago* (5 children)

    Transport one of those people from the hunter-gatherer/bronze age/iron age/midevial era and they would be ecstatic in the modern day.

    Would they? Would they appreciate property rights, being locked in a box every night, processed foods, competitive employment, paying for food and shelter instead of making it yourself, sexual harassment prohibitions? These things all have both good and bad aspects and somebody transported from another reality into this one could focus on either. At the very least they would be homesick and perpetually at odds with modern laws.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 hours ago (4 children)

    Processed foods would blow their fucking minds. Yeah im sure they would be a little homesick so lets let them take their friends and family.

    Living in the woods or like a peasant in an undeveloped country is still an option, there's a reason nobody does it though.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 hours ago (3 children)

    Living in the woods or like a peasant in an undeveloped country is still an option, there’s a reason nobody does it though.

    Starting with: people who try to do it get arrested / evicted / victimized.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 hours ago (2 children)

    As opposed to the legal protections given to people in ancient times?

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  • [–] 1 point 6 hours ago (1 child)

    People in ancient times had their tribe, respect of their clan, and a hell of a lot less crowding.

    Today, you can put yourself 50 miles from the nearest civilization and still be removed by authorities based on a flyover spotting.

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